Having traveled on the planes again recently, I was yet again annoyed with the utterly stupid regulations and a few revelations that I simply didn't know about. Here were the two things I learned:
1. If you are a member of the military, you do NOT have to take your shoes off.
2. You can bring a lighter with you on the plane.
I didn't know either of these things and was VERY surprised to find out. I asked a TSA guy about whether we didn't have to take our shoes off anymore through security since I saw someone in the army go through. He said that I still have to. I asked why the army guy didn't have to. He explained he didn't because he was army personnel . I pointed out to him that the whole reason for this stupidity was to "be safe" and that not requiring him to take his shoes off defeats the whole purpose. He made a stupid excuse and said that we have worse things to worry about if a guy in the army wants to blow a plane up
That is STUPID. Wtf. Why can't some terrorist just dress up as an army guy and march right through? He probably has to have an army ID or something, but you can fake that easily enough. They don't actually scan the thing; they just use the light.
Just a reminder. To my knowledge we are the ONLY country on the ENTIRE PLANET that makes you take off your damn shoes!!! (A TSA employee confirmed this for me)
Why the hell do we do it anyway? Why can't a terrorist just board a plane in another country bound for the US and march right on with his "scary shoes" and blow up a plane with a lot of Americans on it?
My law of logic is this: if Israel doesn't think it is necessary, we CERTAINLY shouldn't.
Leave our damn shoes alone, TSA!!! It doesn't make us any safer, you dumbass pricks.
Second thought is why the hell can we bring a lighter on the plane but not a tube of toothpaste greater than 3 ounces Sure, someone TECHNICALLY could bring liquid explosive on the plane, but they could also TECHNICALLY light shit on fire with their lighter as well
Think about this for a second. A plane holds on average about 120 people or so. Wouldn't it be better for a terrorist to, oh I don't know, blow up a subway car? Those hold WAY more people, and there is almost no screening for that. Not only that, but it could derail the entire train. Blowing up the plane defeats the capability of crashing it into something.
We didn't think this was such a big deal before the 2006 incident. Why do we now? Because ONE group of people planned to blow up ONE plane. By that logic, you guys on the right would think we needed to screen every single building on college campuses for weapons because it happened at Virginia Tech. I'm sure you all would LOVE that
TSA can suck my left nut. It's not worth being this paranoid. The Patriot Act and all of these stupid regulations are unnecessary and intrusive. As Benjamin Franklin once said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
I hope when Obama is done with more pressing issues that he gets rid of this stupid right-wing fearmongering garbage that Bush and cronies passed.
Having traveled on the planes again recently, I was yet again annoyed with the utterly stupid regulations and a few revelations that I simply didn't know about. Here were the two things I learned:
1. If you are a member of the military, you do NOT have to take your shoes off.
2. You can bring a lighter with you on the plane.
I didn't know either of these things and was VERY surprised to find out. I asked a TSA guy about whether we didn't have to take our shoes off anymore through security since I saw someone in the army go through. He said that I still have to. I asked why the army guy didn't have to. He explained he didn't because he was army personnel . I pointed out to him that the whole reason for this stupidity was to "be safe" and that not requiring him to take his shoes off defeats the whole purpose. He made a stupid excuse and said that we have worse things to worry about if a guy in the army wants to blow a plane up
That is STUPID. Wtf. Why can't some terrorist just dress up as an army guy and march right through? He probably has to have an army ID or something, but you can fake that easily enough. They don't actually scan the thing; they just use the light.
Just a reminder. To my knowledge we are the ONLY country on the ENTIRE PLANET that makes you take off your damn shoes!!! (A TSA employee confirmed this for me)
Why the hell do we do it anyway? Why can't a terrorist just board a plane in another country bound for the US and march right on with his "scary shoes" and blow up a plane with a lot of Americans on it?
My law of logic is this: if Israel doesn't think it is necessary, we CERTAINLY shouldn't.
Leave our damn shoes alone, TSA!!! It doesn't make us any safer, you dumbass pricks.
Second thought is why the hell can we bring a lighter on the plane but not a tube of toothpaste greater than 3 ounces Sure, someone TECHNICALLY could bring liquid explosive on the plane, but they could also TECHNICALLY light shit on fire with their lighter as well
Think about this for a second. A plane holds on average about 120 people or so. Wouldn't it be better for a terrorist to, oh I don't know, blow up a subway car? Those hold WAY more people, and there is almost no screening for that. Not only that, but it could derail the entire train. Blowing up the plane defeats the capability of crashing it into something.
We didn't think this was such a big deal before the 2006 incident. Why do we now? Because ONE group of people planned to blow up ONE plane. By that logic, you guys on the right would think we needed to screen every single building on college campuses for weapons because it happened at Virginia Tech. I'm sure you all would LOVE that
TSA can suck my left nut. It's not worth being this paranoid. The Patriot Act and all of these stupid regulations are unnecessary and intrusive. As Benjamin Franklin once said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
I hope when Obama is done with more pressing issues that he gets rid of this stupid right-wing fearmongering garbage that Bush and cronies passed.
So is it to your knowledge or is it fact, confirmed by a TSA employee?
I also want to point out that you seem to have a problem with a lot of shit. If you don't like the efforts that are taken to protect us while flying, do something about it. Instead of studying the environment, become the person that decides what to search on a person before the get on a plane.
WTF? someone should tell airports the part about military not taking off their shoes part. i know that i have always had to do it, military ID or not.
hell, even when i was in uniform and presented my ID, i had to take off my belt and shoes like everyone else did. the only time i can recall NOT having to take off my boots is when i was leaving Atlanta and heading back to Iraq this year after R&R leave and that is only because the TSA guy opened up a line for military only since there were about 200 of us.
WTF? someone should tell airports the part about military not taking off their shoes part. i know that i have always had to do it, military ID or not.
hell, even when i was in uniform and presented my ID, i had to take off my belt and shoes like everyone else did. the only time i can recall NOT having to take off my boots is when i was leaving Atlanta and heading back to Iraq this year after R&R leave and that is only because the TSA guy opened up a line for military only since there were about 200 of us.
jim
In my Class A's I had to get down to pants and a t-shirt. Everything else came off. Only time I never had to do that was when the entire plane was military and we were on our way to Egypt.
Well that is what the TSA guy told me. Maybe it's a newer rule or maybe he has family in the military and didn't give a shit about the rules. I don't know quite frankly.
Regarding my previous statement of to my knowledge, TSA people aren't exactly smart, so I don't know how much I trust anything that comes out of their mouths. I did some research and it does seem that the only other country that USED to do it was the UK but they don't do it anymore. So yes, unless my facts are wrong, we are THE ONLY country where you have to take your shoes off.
Jim, next time you go through security ask them about an exception for military personnel. I will be interested in hearing what they have to say.
Being overseas my entire military career and having 3 deployments under my belt and numerous TDY assignments to the states, I've travelled in uniform a lot.
ONE TIME have I been waived through inspections and that was when I was running late and had a huge line of about 500 people ahead of me. Even then I had to remove my boots.
So basically the complaint is that the guy with the military ID and military orders got to go through the inspection and you didn't. Why not just take your shoes off, salute the military guy and be on your merry way?
The lighter thing I don't know about that one. I was under the impression you could only take on matches or a zippo lighter with the flint removed. Anything else has to go under the plane.
hey, why are cops and other emergency vehicles allowed to speed and run red lights? i mean, doesn't anyone care about the rules? anyone can buy a car and dress it up like a cop car........
I saw a girl that was about to get on my flight with a lighter and was using it just to play around with it. We were waiting right outside the gate, so she clearly got it through security. I asked about it and the girl confirmed that you
can indeed bring a lighter on the plane with you.
I think this is stupid. I don't get your analogy at all, Jim.
We shouldn't be taking our shoes off at the VERY least. I personally think the gel shit is too paranoid as well. It's just a tactic of fear to give security businesses nice lucrative government contracts to develop more advanced x-ray and other scanning equipment
You actually have a FAR greater chance of being killed in a car accident, walking across the street, drowning, dying in a fire, falling, being murdered, or committing suicide.
If you look here under terrorist attack, you have a greater chance of dying via avalanche!!!
Here is another nice list for thought:
You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack
You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack
You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane
You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack
You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack
You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack
You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack
You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack
You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist
So my point is, what the HELL are we doing? This is irrational behavior and it is costing people ludicrous amounts of time and money. If you think about it, we are essentially giving the terrorists exactly what they want; inconviencing ourselves because we are afraid of them. We are letting them win this way. We need to show them instead that we don't fear them.
We got by just fine without all of these ridiculous regulations before Sept. 11, 2001. Nothing would have actually happened if they had just sealed the cockpit doors on the plane.
So ask yourselves why exactly are we doing this? Is this really a legitimate threat?
All you ever do is complain. Shut the fuck up dude. Unless you do something about it, complaining will get you no where. So instead of posting all of your useless bullshit here, go change the regulations that require you to take your shoes off yet allow you to take a lighter on a plane.
We shouldn't be taking our shoes off at the VERY least. I personally think the gel shit is too paranoid as well. It's just a tactic of fear to give security businesses nice lucrative government contracts to develop more advanced x-ray and other scanning equipment
Isn't that pretty much the same type of argument that others have been using against al gore and global warming? Cause a panic then make money off of it.
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Yeah...... about that. *LMAO* You had to remove your shoes long before that guy did that.
When? Reid tried the shoe bomb thing in dec 2001. I've never had to take my shoes off before that and the only time I had to was in 2004 at the atlanta airport. I was the only one in my group to do so as well so it wasn't mandatory, I think they made me do it because I went through security once went back out and the second time I was stoped and asked to remove my shoes and get patted down. For what it's worth I also was carrying a military ID which I produced along with my drivers liscense and it did not do anything to convince the TSA to not have me take my shoes off.
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. I pointed out to him that the whole reason for this stupidity was to "be safe" and that not requiring him to take his shoes off defeats the whole purpose. He made a stupid excuse and said that we have worse things to worry about if a guy in the army wants to blow a plane up 
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