Mr obamas message to congress

[Coben Majere]

The time for bickering is over.

I agree. Now shut up and stop trying to force gov't health care down our thoats. What you call bickering, I call America telling you, thanks, but no thanks!

I had to turn it off after that comment...declaring the recession over was incredible in itself...wonder if he realizes that people are still hurting out there.

Was anyone else able to stomach the entire hour + of his crapola fest?

[RTShadow]

I didn't watch any of it, I can only pray that enough people contact their democratic congressmen and let them know straight up that they are risking political suicide by voting for this nonsense. There is no way any bill would be ready for at LEAST 5 years, and we shouldn't even attempt something without spending that amount of time to try and come up with a valid solution to the problem.

Start with children, don't be fucking stupid and try and include EVERYONE in an all inclusive pile of shit.

Children are easily covered because it is very rare that you will have a hundred thousand dollar bill for a childhood ailment, kids have skinned knees, sore throats, shit like that.

It is people over 40 without insurance who will fucking utterly destroy our economy and the working health care for those of us who DO have it, if we try and offer free health care to them without first figuring out a way to make it work beforehand.

[Philth]

Mandatory health insurance in 4 years. WTF?!!? Are you kidding me?

[Coben Majere]

Hey, they have all the money in the world to make this work...sadly it's YOUR money they'll be using.

[Philth]

Quote: Originally Posted by Coben Majere

Hey, they have all the money in the world to make this work...sadly it's YOUR money they'll be using.

But, one question:




HOW IN THE FUCK IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT A) RAISING TAXES AND B) BY NOT ADDING ONE DIME TO THE FEDERAL DEFECEIT AS HE SAYS???

[Coben Majere]

It can't. Sure he'll say it will, but no fuzzy math or socialist program will make this work without tax dollars.

Healthcare reform is allowing people to purchase insurance from out of state and tort reform. The top two anyhow. What mr obama wants is socialized gov't run health care. They can't run social security, how will they run the health care industry?

[Philth]

Agreed.

Clean as shit.

[dodgezdad]

This man could sell swamp land to Donald Trump.
As a senior on medicare I know that 500,000,000 savings in that program will mean reduced care. Seniors will die sooner with reduced care= more savings. SS cost of living adjustment are not going up for two years means more savings
Your grandparents are paying for this big time and the younger are paying for SS and will never see it.
Your taxes and fees will be going up and the irony is increased taxes will reduce government revenue, it always has in the past.
Our Country is bankrupt, we just haven't filed yet. Obama is about to complete his redistribution of wealth.

A lot of his speech was not spin, just lies.

[Coben Majere]

I just seen the clip where someone in the audience called mr obama a liar when he said the health care plan will not cover illegal immigrants. Thats probably true, since amnesty will be his next agenda. Buy\t I digress... I didn't agree with the congressman saying this out loud in his speech, but I gotta give him credit for calling it like it is!

[dodgezdad]

Quote: Originally Posted by Coben Majere

I just seen the clip where someone in the audience called mr obama a liar when he said the health care plan will not cover illegal immigrants. Thats probably true, since amnesty will be his next agenda. Buy\t I digress... I didn't agree with the congressman saying this out loud in his speech, but I gotta give him credit for calling it like it is!

That was Joe Wilson from my State and I'm so proud of him. He should be given an award for standing up and speaking truth.
Unfortunately, our RINO Senator Graham asked Joe to apologize and he did. Graham Is another lier that will not even met with the people that elected him!

From that gathering of Congress were some of the biggest lies and thugs that have ever gathered

[Coslin]

The outburst, as unprofessional as it was, was based on calling out Obama in the bold-faced lie he was telling at the time of his speech. The dems are going to hold onto that outburst and attempt to rally (read: whip out the pitchforks and stakes) their party and try to pass this filth that is a health care bill.

Kudos to the guy for calling out a liar when he sees one, but it wasn't the place to do so. Not that Obama would ever open himself up to debate this "bill" as he sees it anyways. Also, I wouldn't put it past the American people to understand that as unprofessional as this outburst was, it was based on the truth and that the real issue isn't the outburst, but the lie that prompted it in the first place.

[dodgezdad]

People like Joe Wilson is the reason we have an United States of American.

This man has as a proud past.

[Coslin]

I do not disagree zDad. Not at all.

[Coben Majere]

You're both right, it was unprofessional, but I also see it as someone that has a passion for their job, and was appalled at the bold lying being told to the American public.

I can see the dumocrats tying to use this to their advantage also...more whining and crying. I don't get how he thinks that most Americans want a public option....most of the town hall meetings have been in opposition to this option...I guess when you live in your own little world, anything is possible

[Coslin]

You maybe mistaking my position, I support the guy 110%. I believe he did the right thing calling out a lie when he sees one. But it's pretty obvious that wasn't the correct time or place (Not that would have stopped me either, but hey.. I'm not a politican).