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Old 09-27-2009, 09:58 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Proof that the incident was by no means staged comes in the form of a photograph taken of the same man under arrest laying on the ground in plastic handcuffs. The men in military uniforms are accompanied by uniformed riot police, proving that this was a genuine and coordinated arrest and abduction. The men in military uniforms are not protesters dressed up as Marines, as the Neo-Cons are bizarrely claiming.

Those are not Marines, I know that for a fact. Maybe Army, but definitely not Marines.

But as much time as I spent with the Army in Iraq, I don't think those are Army uniforms either.
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well they may not be marines or army but they finally admitted that the incident was not staged they claimed the kidnapping was done by some kind of private 'joint task force' (if that's the truth Blackwater is my guess?) so its a moot point... but if I'm not mistaken the camos used by the ones who kidnapped the guy are ones used by Marines.

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:41 AM   #48 (permalink)
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well they may not be marines or army but they finally admitted that the incident was not staged they claimed the kidnapping was done by some kind of private 'joint task force' (if that's the truth Blackwater is my guess?) so its a moot point... but if I'm not mistaken the camos used by the ones who kidnapped the guy are ones used by Marines.

lol, kidnaped. did they hold him for ransome and send the note to his mommy
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:16 AM   #49 (permalink)
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lol, kidnaped. did they hold him for ransome and send the note to his mommy

Well that is the correct term for illegally taking someone to an undisclosed location without questioning or arresting them... it is used on adults as well.
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well they may not be marines or army but they finally admitted that the incident was not staged they claimed the kidnapping was done by some kind of private 'joint task force' (if that's the truth Blackwater is my guess?) so its a moot point... but if I'm not mistaken the camos used by the ones who kidnapped the guy are ones used by Marines.

No they're not. The Marine Corps phased out the old style camouflage utilities about 5 years ago, and the new style look nothing like the ones they are wearing. Even the guy bending over tending to the guy on the ground isn't wearing any type of military uniform that I've ever seen (except Air Force...I believe the new AF uniform is digital pattern in a blue color). And the guy driving that car is the same guy standing in that picture with the same uniform on.

Besides, Marines are not allowed to walk around in the open without a cover (hat) on, they would NEVER be allowed in public with a 5 o'clock shadow like that douche standing in the middle of the picture, and they all dress uniformly, so one guy with sleeves rolled up, one sleeves rolled down and another in old style cammies would never fly with ANY commander.

After looking all of that over carefully, I'm almost 100% sure that they are not even military.

*EDIT* And lolerskates at the riot cop on the left that is wearing Mechanix gloves. Are you 100% sure this wasn't staged??

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Old 09-28-2009, 06:32 AM   #51 (permalink)
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yeah it was either the g20 itself or pitts that admitted it wasn't staged, I'll post the info tonight after work.
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well they may not be marines or army but they finally admitted that the incident was not staged they claimed the kidnapping was done by some kind of private 'joint task force' (if that's the truth Blackwater is my guess?) so its a moot point... but if I'm not mistaken the camos used by the ones who kidnapped the guy are ones used by Marines.

negative...not sure which uniforms those are, either thats a private army or possibly the Army's new multicam. defin. not the MARPAT uniforms
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Hmm.. The kidnapping is sounding more and more like it was staged.

Some other things I've noticed:x what government vehicle has vent shades on the windows? Also the license plate doesn't look to be the same color as a federal plate (there is no clear view of the plate at any time, how convenient).
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G20 cops dressed in camo ’snatch’ protester | Raw Story

as promised... the G20 officials admit the kidnapping was no hoax.
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Form what I read, it appears that these guys were indeed police officers, some SWAT type unit, which is why they were in camo, and not properly attired per milspec. So, if they arrested the guy, then it wasnt kidnapping was it?
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Better yet, the title of this thread itself is completely false.
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Form what I read, it appears that these guys were indeed police officers, some SWAT type unit, which is why they were in camo, and not properly attired per milspec. So, if they arrested the guy, then it wasnt kidnapping was it?

Apparently these days in our 'state of emergency' aka people using their first amendment rights, it is now a legitimate arrest to grab someone off the street without police attire or reading off miranda rights and throwing them into an unmarked car and speeding off, only to detain the person without charging them with anything.

You're absolutely right. It wasn't a kidnapping.
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Apparently these days in our 'state of emergency' aka people using their first amendment rights, it is now a legitimate arrest to grab someone off the street without police attire or reading off miranda rights and throwing them into an unmarked car and speeding off, only to detain the person without charging them with anything.

You're absolutely right. It wasn't a kidnapping.

enough dude, you post this stuff WATCH YOUR VIDEO in the left side of the screen there are 2 clearly visable officers in full riot dress passing the detainee to the transport i think we all understand you think you are a crusaider for our rights but quit being a freaking tool....it is what it is A FUCKING RIOT police issued a disperse command and some didnt listen others take that as signal to get roudy and get detained I see no misstreatment what I see is a bunch of LEO's taking extra special care NOT to step over the line THEY ARE NOT DUMB and they are briefed about civial disobiedience and how to handle it 100% within the law I gaurentee there are OIG laywers in these crowds waiting to make internal affairs aligations

keep posting your stuff I like it and you do bring some good points but OPEN YOUR MIND



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You do know Miranda doesnt have to be read at the time of arrest, just prior to questioning, right? And we have no way of knowing if he was questioned, and if so, if he Mirandized prior to that. Nor do police officers have to be dressed a certain way, they just usually do to prevent issues such as you are raising, with folks thinking its a snatch when its not. Same thing with marked vehicles, becuase its what your used to doesnt make it a requirement. If you can find where its required to dress a certain way, or drive a marked car, let me know.



Now, do we know this person was detained and not charged?
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National guard or military police must get a rush getting ready for an event like this
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