Since I don't speak farsi or arabic I don't know what exactly he said, except for what our media reports. If you have experience with any foreign language you know that a direct translation is damn near impossible. Look at german for god's sake it's one of the closest languages to English and it still doesn't directly translate. Point is there is a ton of propaganda out their that we as Americans take for gospel without verification. Were spoon fed such half truths about the middle east it's hard seperating the shit from the mushroom. Were told that they hate our "freedom", they tell us they hate us because of our blind support of Israel. We sell the Israelis the munitions to bomb their citys (but we give them the money via aid first) and then we still buy the same BS about it being because our women show their tits! Come on wake up. We fucking launch a 2 front war because of 911 yet when the Israelis get caught spying on the US and blatantly killing our sailors nothing happends.(USS liberty) Why is that? Even if Iran gets a nuke they have NO way of launching it towards the US. Dirty bomb maybe but they already have that capability. They get a nuke they threaten ISRAEL and we the US people will sacrifice the blood of OUR children protecting that shitty little piece of wasteland. What have they done for us? We lose more votes in the UN for our blind support of Isarel than we gain from them. Don't bitch about welfare and aid to africa if you support Israel. I guarantee as Iran become more of a threat to Israel we will become more and more propagandized about Iran. I wouldn't be supprised if they didn't start airing 30 y/o film footage from the ayatollah Khomeini and hostage years to get us to beat the drum. Do you know why the US replaced the original shah with his son? Probably not, but his son is one other reason the Islamist came to power there. Sorry for the rant but I'm sick and tired of our country being used as Israel's attack dog.
PS Fuck europe and canada too.
I almost agree completely with you but we're both being used as attack dogs, israel and the US alike.
Iran might irritate the US but they are by no means a major threat to the US. Yes the have the capability to "threaten" us but the have no real ability to carry out that threat other than through the use of proxies such as hamas or other militant groups. .
Wow guess you were completely wrong. What a surprise......
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Welcome to the 1950's Iran! One satelite is not a major threat. Just as said in earlier posts we are going to see more and more propaganda against Iran in the near future,thanks for finding and posting some for the sheeple. I like the one quote saying that the same tech could possible be used to make an ICBM. Hey I have a HP desktop that could potentially be used to shut down the entire world grid!!! It has more ram than the space shuttle. Or better yet I have a septic tank that could be used to manufacture bio weapons. Go back and drink some more kool aid. We don't worry about chinas nukes or north koreas nukes(who already can hit the US) but Iran getting a potential nuke and all hell breaks loose and we want to put up missile shields to protect "Europe". That only supports my belief that we are being used as Israels attack dog. Fuck, hate Iran all you want just stop being a blind follower of bullshit, and see it for what it is.
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Welcome to the 1950's Iran! One satelite is not a major threat. .
Ok we'll just wait until they strap a nuke on their puny little rocket that can go into space. Hopefully it doesn't kill anybody. That sounds like a winning plan. Wait until we get hit then hit back.
A little off topic.. But the only reason anyone wants nukes is because other countries have them. Anyone with an interest in their own survival would never actually use one though.
It's not that easy to build a launchable a-bomb. It's much much easier to take a conventional bomb and either place radioactive material or chemical agents on board. Iran might be pursueing a nuke but it will not affect the US. They hate Israel more than they do US and if they really wanted to attack the USA(homeland) they already have the capability with chem and bio weapons(which would be worse in most cases than a low yield nuke). Pakistan/N. Korea already have the bomb yet we aren't really concerned with either. All those US troops in Korea and japan within range of Korea and all those troops within range of pakistan(which is an ally for now) yet the press and the propagandists are fretting over Iran. Why can't you see that the only reason is cause of Israel..
Wow you are fucking uninformed now aren't you. That little fuck threatens us all the time. What do you not understand about Islamic Fundamentalism? It is either convert or die for them....I personally don't want to have all my women covered in carpets and have to fuck camels as part of my religion. Sorry
Islamic Fundamentalists (a silly and enormously broad term if I ever heard one) at best only make up a small fraction of all Muslims across the globe. Fortunately (I guess?) there are an equal number of Judeo Christian Fundamentalists willing to get just as crazy on them as the Islamic fundamentalist group want to get on us.
And don't lie, napa, you do too want your women covered in carpets and have to fuck camels.
All we can hope for is that our fundamentalists convert them before their fundamentalists convert us! I suppose this is just another holy war.
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They must find it difficult...those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority .
You can't keep the facts that fit your prejudices and throw out the ones that destroy your theories.
Islamic Fundamentalists (a silly and enormously broad term if I ever heard one) at best only make up a small fraction of all Muslims across the globe.
true! however, the general population is easily scared and influenced by this small fraction and their tactics used to persuade people such as killing them if they don't. you don't get out much do you? although, i would say we are no better in America, just replace killing with the media.........they sure know how to work people into a frenzy.
a holy war? i wouldn't say that. i am far from a religious person, honestly nobody gives a shit who they worship.
true! however, the general population is easily scared and influenced by this small fraction and their tactics used to persuade people such as killing them if they don't. you don't get out much do you? although, i would say we are no better in America, just replace killing with the media.........they sure know how to work people into a frenzy.
a holy war? i wouldn't say that. i am far from a religious person, honestly nobody gives a shit who they worship.
jim
The general population is easily scared by.....get ready for this.......individuals such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
They attempt to scare us into believing things that just aren't true i.e. that Iran wants Israel wiped off the map.
What the difference is between these clowns and the Taliban is that the neo-conservative media can actually scare people into doing their bidding without killing them. The Taliban WISHES they could have the omnipotent power with which the American media wields. So these christian conservative crazys whip up your "frenzy" and then this frenzied crowd hauls off and votes to send over 3000 of our troops to die....and for what?
Anyway, yes I do not get out much. But I like to get a global perspective on things so when I get out I get out far. Furthest I've been is Kuala Lumpur. Talked with the locals about geopolitical situations i.e. how Malaysia came to be and stuff.
And Jim you don't have to be a religious person to understand how religion has shaped and currently is shaping the middle east. Didn't they teach you anything in the public school system?......oh, well, I guess that goes to show just how good our public school system is
The general population is easily scared by.....get ready for this.......individuals such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
you could also replace those names with anyone on the left, don't act like only the righties are the ones who whip people into a frenzy with bullshit and lies. shall we discuss the bailout? lulz!
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They attempt to scare us into believing things that just aren't true i.e. that Iran wants Israel wiped off the map.
cite your sources please. it is a well known FACT that many Islamic people DO want Israel wiped off the map. they think that the land belongs to Muslims when this simply isn't true, as evident by looking at any world map and seeing a clear and concise border that indicates a seperate nation.
but seriously, i am curious as to how many countries in the middle east that you have been to where you could talk to the people or witness a protest against the West or Israel. i understand that you may have read some books or watched some TV, but........
actual first hand experience > *
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What the difference is between these clowns and the Taliban is that the neo-conservative media can actually scare people into doing their bidding without killing them. The Taliban WISHES they could have the omnipotent power with which the American media wields. So these christian conservative crazys whip up your "frenzy" and then this frenzied crowd hauls off and votes to send over 3000 of our troops to die....and for what?
a vast amount of American people are sheep who will easily believe whatever the sect that they follow tells them. you lefties are no different at all. 9/11 conspiracies anyone?
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Anyway, yes I do not get out much. But I like to get a global perspective on things so when I get out I get out far. Furthest I've been is Kuala Lumpur. Talked with the locals about geopolitical situations i.e. how Malaysia came to be and stuff.
lulz.........yeah, thats a real good case study. if you actually traveled to a country within the middle east that is Muslim by majority, you would have either known that discussing politics is considered rude, or you would have found out the hard way.
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And Jim you don't have to be a religious person to understand how religion has shaped and currently is shaping the middle east. Didn't they teach you anything in the public school system?......oh, well, I guess that goes to show just how good our public school system is
organized religion in all forms is the worst thing to happen to mankind. however, if it wasn't religion, we would find something else to fight about.
Bump so I can be labelled any anti semite as well like vegas.
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