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Old 08-06-2009, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i have to do an essay for school on gun control and hand gun bans
i want to get everyones opinion on this.

-whether you've ntice a reduction in crime, or an increase
-at what point does the restrictions become a violation of the 2nd amendment
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Some of these are pretty funny, yet true.

40 Reasons for Gun Control

To me, restrictions become a violation of the 2nd Amendment when they take away a law abiding citizens ability to carry. IMO, gun laws should not be a state thing, but a national thing. They should have the same laws across the entire country that way I can carry out of my state. Every body that meets a certain requirement should be able to purchase, own and carry a gun -- concealed or open.
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Any law that deprives me of carrying my firearm or a fee(tax) that I have to pay every 5 yrs is against my Constitutional right!
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I like legally carrying my xd-40.
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personally just about anything more than a quick background check is a violation of the 2nd Amendment. i love these waiting periods in certain states, seriously......call the cops, is the potential buyer a felon? no? okay, sell him guns.

i do agree with the states setting their own guidelines, however there needs to be a federal carry permit for active duty military, federal agents, etc. we move around every couple of years and it's a real pain in the ass to have to go by every state's rules. for example, i am stationed in NY, quite the commie state btw. anyway, you end up waiting 6 months for a fucking handgun permit. now, let's say you were stationed in TX and have a nice collection of guns and you end up getting orders to NY, well now what do you do? legally you can't transport them since every state is different and once you get to NY, you have to wait 6 months to touch the guns you legally own.

like i said.......it should take no more than 24 hours to run a quick background check on someone, people who aren't allowed to legally own guns tend to not buy them from legal gun dealers and hunting goods stores anyway.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Flame View Post
Some of these are pretty funny, yet true.

40 Reasons for Gun Control

To me, restrictions become a violation of the 2nd Amendment when they take away a law abiding citizens ability to carry. IMO, gun laws should not be a state thing, but a national thing. They should have the same laws across the entire country that way I can carry out of my state. Every body that meets a certain requirement should be able to purchase, own and carry a gun -- concealed or open.

do you feel that there should be more extensive background checks, and required training classes before joe blow goes out and buys a gun?
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there needs to be rules and regulations on who can carry a gun (or more to the point) the rules and regulations in place banning guns from being owned or in the posesion of criminals needs to be enforced VERY strictly (1st offence is your last). As for law biding citizens owning and carrying guns i am more than for it AS long as they are not total retards and should know the basics of operations and laws regaurding their use. from a law enforcement stand point i see some real tools carying that have no idea what they are doing. bottom line I believe YOU have the right to do anything that doesnt infringe on any one elses basic rights, if you carry and act like an ass (all tackelberry like) and make me feel unsafe thats where your right to carry ENDS.
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I haven't posted on here in a while, but figured I would seeing the topic. First off, good luck if you take a pro gun position, I'd willingly bet your professor is an anti as is the majority on most college campuses.

Read the link below for any legitimate information regarding all aspects of gun control. The fallacies that are reported by the VPC and the Brady campaign do a great disservice to this country.

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...5.1-screen.pdf
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If someone wants a gun, they will get a gun regardless of any law.
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If someone wants a gun, they will get a gun regardless of any law.

thats very true, and i believe that is where tha basis for most gun control comes from but here inlies the problem is when criminals carry and lawbieding citizens do not for fear of legal penalties. the shift of power will always be in the criminals favor unless the powers that be think things threw a little better
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do you feel that there should be more extensive background checks, and required training classes before joe blow goes out and buys a gun?

I think background checks should go as far as checking to see if a person has any violent crimes on their record or felonies. If a person has a violent history (not just one incident for some crimes), they don't deserve to carry a gun IMO.

I'm not sure about training classes being mandatory. I was a military police man for three years so I feel I don't need training in carrying a handgun. I trust that other people carrying legally would know how to shoot and handle their weapons responsibly, or they wouldn't carry.
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Also, I think when you purchase a gun, you should be given a copy of that states gun laws so there is no saying, ''I didn't know.'' I can tell you right now that I don't know who I can legally protect and where I can protect them in PA. Someone posted on here one day that I can protect myself and others, but I don't have that information from the state which I'd like to have.
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The simple fact remains that in every jurisdiction and state that a gun ban has been implemented, crime does not drop, and in many cases simply increases. Check out crime rates in Washington D.C. and Chicago for verification.

California tried a gun ban before, and even their left-winged and liberal leaders said it did no good.

Britain has an extremely tight noose on handguns (they're basically illegal, but you CAN get a certificate that allows you to keep them), and their crime rates are high.

Perhaps harsher background checks should be in order, and I don't have a problem with that, but I also don't think someone with a marijuana charge in 1975 should be denied the ability to purchase a firearm by a dealer that uses the NICS background check.

You ban guns, the law-abiding citizens will continue to abide the law, and criminals will continue to ignore the law. You take away a law-abiding citizens' right to protect themself and/or property, and you're simply giving criminals free reign to do what they want.

A good example. You have two houses - one has an alarm system and the one next to it doesn't. Which house do you think the thief is going to break into? Unless he hasn't taken his medication, or is high on PCP, he'll be breaking into the house without an alarm.
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Violent crime quadrupled in Australia when they took the guns away.

We have a stupid ass liberal ad running on the radio now about how if you commit a gun crime it is bad and you will end up in jail. That sounds fine and all, but they use the term "GUN crime" about 20 times in the ad. Crime is crime and they should all land you in jail. There is no such thing as a "gun crime" unless they want to start talking about car crime, knife crime, bat crime, ax crime, dick crime, bomb crime, poison crime, ect.

Its just another way the libs try to control the language. Just like with the global warming BS.
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