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Old 08-26-2009, 05:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default After health care, what's next?

I sure the left will compromise on heath care and then change to what they wanted in the first place.
The next move I think will be free speech on talk radio. Mark Lloryd is now a new member of the FFC and is already talking about how Venezuela has stopped free speech on their radios.
If socialize health goes through, I think our free speech will be easy to take because Obama has lost control of the radicals and communist he has installed in our government.
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They've been trying to shut down AM talk radio for years....If any jackass can make it happen it will be this administration. Once they take free speech, we might as well take down the flags and join the Chi-Coms.

I forsee more gun control too. They have our banks, our car manufacturing, health care, then comes silencing and disarming.

King Obama? ::::Shudder::::
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i dont think obama will be running the show..he is mostly just a pawn
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I think next will still be cap and trade, and imagration "reform". Although I too for see more gun control, and something to limit talk radio. You can't let Rush and Beck talk bad about the government.

If any of that happens, it will be bad. If all of that happens, we are no longer America in anyway.
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You know what else we need.

Cell phone reform. I herd on the news Americans pay more for cell phones than any other country. We need to do something about the big cell companies and there monopoly.

Next is high speed internet and cable reform. Do you realize not everyone in this country has these? And that we pay more than anyone else and our service is slower. We have the right to fast cheap internet, and the government needs to fix this.

Auto ins reform. how can the government require me to have auto insurance if I drive a car and not give me a public option. It's just another way for the big ins. company's to make billions, and that is just wrong.

And last I think congress needs a raise. Think about how hard they work. This year alone they managed to write a 1000+ page cap and trade bill, 1000+ page stimulus plan, and 3-4 versions of the 1000+ page health care plane. All this was done in 6 months without even reading it. That's allot of work.

This would be a good start, assuming we already pass a single payer plan, cap and trade, and immigration reform.
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I think if this health care shit goes down, private insurance will go down the tubes in a few years. If everyone is forced to pay for the government's insurance, why pay twice you know? Once most of America changes over, they will start regulating foods you can eat, smoking, drinking, etc. Call me a nut, but I just can't help but see that in the future.

Anyways, while Obama is in office, I see him tackling the gays in the military thing. Of course talk radio is going to feel the pinch too.

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You know what else we need.

Cell phone reform. I herd on the news Americans pay more for cell phones than any other country. We need to do something about the big cell companies and there monopoly.

Next is high speed internet and cable reform. Do you realize not everyone in this country has these? And that we pay more than anyone else and our service is slower. We have the right to fast cheap internet, and the government needs to fix this.

Auto ins reform. how can the government require me to have auto insurance if I drive a car and not give me a public option. It's just another way for the big ins. company's to make billions, and that is just wrong.

And last I think congress needs a raise. Think about how hard they work. This year alone they managed to write a 1000+ page cap and trade bill, 1000+ page stimulus plan, and 3-4 versions of the 1000+ page health care plane. All this was done in 6 months without even reading it. That's allot of work.

This would be a good start, assuming we already pass a single payer plan, cap and trade, and immigration reform.

i agree with most of this but internet is fuckn expensive everywhere...in iraq for personal internet, it was about $100.00 a month, carribean- much the same. while i think its freakn ridiculous to pay $40.00/mo for dsn or broadband, it isnt the most expensive. the cell phone costs are way too high i think also
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i agree with most of this but internet is fuckn expensive everywhere...in iraq for personal internet, it was about $100.00 a month, carribean- much the same. while i think its freakn ridiculous to pay $40.00/mo for dsn or broadband, it isnt the most expensive. the cell phone costs are way too high i think also

Wait, you agree?
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I agree that the services are expensive. I disagree it needs gov't involvment.

Supply and demand. If people stop using the services or demand lower rates that will cause the market to go down. I for one won't use cable tv as I get better service and features with Dish network satellite TV.

Cell phone, I have a two line service and it's $70 for us both, which I think is on the expensive side....we never use all of our minutes, don't text or send crap, and have something like 4000 roll ove minutes....I'd much rather see my bill and features cut in 1/2.
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the way things are going, eventually they will take over everything...kind of a moot point sadly
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Time for me to weigh in on this.

Once health care is passed the next issue down the road is most definitely cap and trade legislation.

I also think the repeal of don't ask don't tell is coming soon as well.

Both will pass, but DODT repeal will pass far more easily than cap and trade. Too many senators in the pockets of coal and oil.

I like how you, as a conservative, are going to bitch about the high cost of your cell phone service or auto insurance, but paying too much for health care? Not a problem!!

You can thank the republicans for all of the things you are concerned about. Why?

Well lets start with cell phones. In case you haven't noticed, the SEC under Bush approved quite a few mergers in the cell phone industry before Obama took office within the last few years (such as Sprint/Nextel, or AT&T/Cingular, or Verizon/Alltel).

That lead to an oligopoly of the cell phone industry where now there are only FOUR major carriers: Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

Guess what could have prevented that? People who aren't as friendly to business (aka liberals) that would have said it would have concentrated too much power into too few companies. I thought you hated government interference into the private markets, racinready, don't you? Boy don't you look like a big damn hypocrite right now.

The same goes for the cable industry. Comcast has essentially a monopoly all over a good portion of the US. Again, the government should have said no to all the take overs Comcast did. That wouldn't be very conservative though, would it?


You want to blame someone for your high cable and phone prices? Blame your damn selves.

Auto insurance as well. Notice that the government requires you to have auto insurance but not health insurance. Is your car more important than your health?

Honestly my auto insurance prices are somewhat reasonable. It would be nice if there was more competition in that sector as well, however. Can you guys guess which auto insurance company I'm with? Hint: It's pretty obvious based on the name of it.
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obviously you would be with REgressive....as far as replublicans beingthe only ones to blame u are once again not right. the reason we have oligarchies in this country is because liberals and their love for taxes have driven all industries out of this country (look at your cellphone, made in china). only the few giants remain and are helped out by globalist interests. both parties are to blame and once again you fail...big surprise


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Time for me to weigh in on this.

Once health care is passed the next issue down the road is most definitely cap and trade legislation.

I also think the repeal of don't ask don't tell is coming soon as well.

Both will pass, but DODT repeal will pass far more easily than cap and trade. Too many senators in the pockets of coal and oil.

I like how you, as a conservative, are going to bitch about the high cost of your cell phone service or auto insurance, but paying too much for health care? Not a problem!!

You can thank the republicans for all of the things you are concerned about. Why?

Well lets start with cell phones. In case you haven't noticed, the SEC under Bush approved quite a few mergers in the cell phone industry before Obama took office within the last few years (such as Sprint/Nextel, or AT&T/Cingular, or Verizon/Alltel).

That lead to an oligopoly of the cell phone industry where now there are only FOUR major carriers: Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

Guess what could have prevented that? People who aren't as friendly to business (aka liberals) that would have said it would have concentrated too much power into too few companies. I thought you hated government interference into the private markets, racinready, don't you? Boy don't you look like a big damn hypocrite right now.

The same goes for the cable industry. Comcast has essentially a monopoly all over a good portion of the US. Again, the government should have said no to all the take overs Comcast did. That wouldn't be very conservative though, would it?


You want to blame someone for your high cable and phone prices? Blame your damn selves.

Auto insurance as well. Notice that the government requires you to have auto insurance but not health insurance. Is your car more important than your health?

Honestly my auto insurance prices are somewhat reasonable. It would be nice if there was more competition in that sector as well, however. Can you guys guess which auto insurance company I'm with? Hint: It's pretty obvious based on the name of it.

I don't really think the government should controll any of that. I was just guessing what's coming next in our new socialist system. Granted we do pay allot from most of that stuff. As we should, Americans have higher average income than anywhere else in the world. And sense we are the "rich" we need to pay our "fair share". Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

But, it's good you agree with my post. Kinda makes my point.
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You know what else we need.

Cell phone reform. I herd on the news Americans pay more for cell phones than any other country. We need to do something about the big cell companies and there monopoly.

Next is high speed internet and cable reform. Do you realize not everyone in this country has these? And that we pay more than anyone else and our service is slower. We have the right to fast cheap internet, and the government needs to fix this.

Auto ins reform. how can the government require me to have auto insurance if I drive a car and not give me a public option. It's just another way for the big ins. company's to make billions, and that is just wrong.

And last I think congress needs a raise. Think about how hard they work. This year alone they managed to write a 1000+ page cap and trade bill, 1000+ page stimulus plan, and 3-4 versions of the 1000+ page health care plane. All this was done in 6 months without even reading it. That's allot of work.

This would be a good start, assuming we already pass a single payer plan, cap and trade, and immigration reform.



Also.. Since the government forces me to pay a speeding ticket when I get one... They should provide me with a stimulus to pay for it.
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If you have Progressive, you're being charged way to much. I looked at them, but I pay less, alot less, with Nationwide. Having, 3 vehicles, motorcycle and my house really lowers my cost. Progressive couldn't even come close. Next closest was USAA, but the motorcycle put them about $200 more.

You're right, Comcast is to big. But the market will adjust. The last thing we need is gov't intervention. Repeat after me. LESS GOVERMENT means LESS TAXATION.

I, being a soldier, sincerely do NOT want homo's in my unit. To bad homosexual activity is immoral. We can still be court martialed for fraternization between opposite sex soldiers of the same rank, but now were going to allow homo's in the unit? We seperate male and female rooms, latrines and shower areas because of the sex differences and the potential for sexual harassment, but now you want to allow men, that may find me sexually attractive, to be in close proximity to me? Can I puke now? I would be VERY uncomfortable, and don't say this is MY problem. You wouldn't tell a female soldier to take a shower with men and tell her to suck it up, buttercup, it's YOUR problem if you're uncomfortable.

Bottom line is homosexual activity is immoral and not conducive to discipline within a unit. Men, and women, need to bond, and not sexually. Homo's can do other things to serve there country. (IMHO, suicide would be the best option)

If I had one in my platoon, I would exclude him from off duty activities with me, which help create commaraderie and discipline, thereby making him a weak link. I frequently have soldiers in my home for dinner, movies, socializing, beer, and to help with vehicle repair. Sometimes we go out together with the families to dinner, amusement parks and other couples activies like concerts and bars. I would not invite a homo soldier, as I mentioned, because I find his lifestyle immoral and would not subject myself to that sin. I can tolerate it, but not accept it. If I accept it, I am sinning then too. If I must tolerate their lifestyle, then I suggest you tolerate my religious beliefs. Mutual respect. I know that you will not however, as it's all about "Whatever makes you feel good"

Now stay out of my military, which you haven't a clue about, or the balls to do that job that I, and my fellow soldiers do.

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