if the s3 has the same mods as the sst equipped car then the s3 will beat the sst car beyond the shadow of a doubt ...
your statement is similar to someone with a complete stock srt saying they beat a 50 trim srt, so the car must be fast ... but the 50 trim was in limp mode, on 87 octane and had low compression on cyl #1
It's a name... thats all. Will it kill a stage 3 car mod for mod, hell no. I never said it would. Putting words in one's mouth is the same as making assumptions and we all know what that leeds to.
what's the highest trapping SST car? 118-120 maybe? my buddy's s3 srt with only intake & exhaust (and a shitty ass tube & fin ebay fmic) traps 116 ... throw the same mods the highest trapping SST car had & you'll have yourself an s3 that traps 125+
Why do you care? I think its 120 now, so that makes the SST garbage? What because it can not trap 125 like a modded stage 3? This goes all the way back to the debate of the stock turbo. Can it make 300 WHP, in 2003 everyone said no way. That was proven wrong. Can the stock turbo trap 115 MPH, back in 2003 and 2004, hell no... not with our spray. Now we have stock turbos trapping in that range and we have had 300 WHP stockers for 3 years now.
I will say it again, the SST version III will not "kill" a modded stage 3, are you kidding me. Will it holds its own, mod of mod yes I believe it will.
saying it can beat a 50 trim still isn't comparable .... PSI-for-PSI, MOD-for-MOD, COMPRESSION-for-COMPRESSION and OCTANE-for-OCTANE, an SST car CAN NOT & WILL NOT beat a stage 3 or 50 trim
I agree and how did we get into the 50 trim vs SST thread?
There have been several kills of stage 3 cars and big turbo cars by SST's (talk with Mole' about this). Poor tune, not enough fuel, low boost, boost leaks, ect ect. When it comes down to it, run what you brung just don't run your mouth. It has happend and it will continue to happen to those that don't have properly set up cars. Great thing about the SST, easy set up and affordable power vs a big turbo car.
Has anyone ever notice that John is only one with all these high hp sst's?
FM has a 400 WHP set up that they posted dynos on. I have a few that are just in the midd 300's. Driver311 had a 330 and 350 WHP dynos here not to long ago on and economy manifold (not sure what the other mods were so don't shoot me) and SST. So I guess I could say my numbers are high but not as high as some other vendors are claiming on the stock manifold. RIP mods, FM, TCC, and the list goes on and on. At least I have dyno's for proof .
he is on SCT PRP. PTP intimidator manifold. PTP s3k. meth. usually runs 26psi.
me. 50t. full bolt ons. SCT w/o fine tuning it.
His car is stage 3 now. The S3K was broken and shelfed for a different design. Again the 50 trim to the stock turbo, how the hell did we get here? This is not an apple I am going to call an orange, it's an apple idiot.
so you admit that it takes the driver mod for an SST car to beat a 50T or s3 car?
that's what I thought...
saying so admits that the SST is inferior to the other setups ... like I said before, what's the highest trap of an SST car WITHOUT nitrous? then, what's the highest trap of a 50 trim srt? what's the highest trap of a stage 3?
stage 3 with a lot of work can go 130mph ... a 50 trim can do it at high boost, stock head, cams, gears, etc. ... can an SST?
Take a look at the time's list, you will see that SST's are on several of those cars and they are beating several 50t and stage 3 cars. Does this mean that there are way better drivers out there? Nope, just means that the SST provides a good affordable gain for your car. We have several that are in the low 12's and a few that are in the 11's. Does this mean that the SST is faster the most modded SRT's? NO!!! and if you believe that your just as retarded as part of your post that I highlighted.
if only this much thought & discussion went into making the SST, perhaps they would last longer
Well you really failed in this post. In the last 10 months going on 11 we have sold over 80 SST and only one, yes just one had a failure. We have had this figured out for some time now, so please go throw your failure shit somewhere else. Its getting old because you have nothing to back up what your stating other then opinion.
I want you to "show" me the failed SST's out there. I mean come on now the forums should be full of them. There should be a PTP screwed me thread every week on the SST in the vendor reviews, I don't see any... do you? Your hatred for me has really shown it's true side once again, nice job.
Last edited by ptperformance : 06-23-2008 at 12:37 AM.
dude just sit your ass down and watch the thread. You dont know what i know about PTP turbos
OMG, that was funny. Please tell me what you know about our turbos. Here's a simple one for you to answer:
What is the exhaust clip of the SST, or the S3K. New or old. Next, what is the inducer and exducer size of either of these turbos, new or old. There will be some difference's in both of them new or old and Version II and III, but you should be able to come close to one of those answers. I will be waiting for all your knowledge of my product to come forth (this should be good).
So, now that I have made it throught this thread give a big thanks to the drastic crew for fucking it up. Yes I know that all of you are are on drastic's nuts for some reason and are looking to "get back at me".
Long story short, SST is a great option for those that want affordable WHP. You will not get all sorts of problems with tuning and what not and if you are just looking for a little extra... this is the answer. If you want to beat up on big turbo car and bolt on stage 3 cars, get one of those because its going to take a healthy shot of N2O to keep up with either of those with a good tune running "good". The SST is for those that want a "little" more, not a "lot" more.
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