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Old 08-01-2008, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sure had a good time in Portland, it was fun hanging out with you all. I'm going to have to look for more opportunities to apply the things that I learned on the track.

I need to work on identifying the distance that I need for braking. It seemed like I slowed down too soon and that my braking was too soft to get the reaction that I wanted. I needed to come in fast, brake hard then hit the corner accelerating. Like my instructor said, I had "a few moments of brilliance" but the rest was quite novice.

On corner 6 it felt like I was going too fast. I kept lifting my foot which of course is the wrong thing to do. I liked corner 7.

I wish there was a video of the course, I'd like to replay the corners and think about how they felt. What I really wish is that there was a T&T equivalent so that I could practice.

Alright enough rambling, it's Friday night in Port Townsend, Blues Festival is happening so there will be music in the bars, guess I'd better go check it out.

Later my friends, see you again. C
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seat time! its the most fun you can have and unfortunately that is your test n tune. it comes less frequently than drag racing and costs a bunch more. i cant get enough of it really.

sorry if i got annoying at the bar, but i dont remember. dont blame me blame that nos drinking s.o.b. kevin. lol. i guess he supplied a few more jagers than i have the ability to remember.

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From what I have heard you did an excellent job, and the only we all will get better is more seat time. It's to bad that you only get four sessions to practice, the sessions this time were a little shorter then normal due to the Weds. night old timer drags. Typically a session on the track last 30 minutes. On Aug 29th there is an event at the Bremerton track with the SCCA, PM Dave Jackson and get the low down.
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From what I have heard you did an excellent job.

You're just saying that to be nice which is more than I can say about the guys that were making fun of me while I was sleeping in the paddock. I thought that I heard something about drool, then I woke up. Man, can't a person just close their eyes for a minute!
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o snap. i thought you heard the conversation. here is what happened.

brian stands by your open drivers door window just staring like the fuck-tard that he is so i mention "she sleeps when she can." of course he is confused and keeps staring until you wake up. that was all brian if you ask me.

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You're just saying that to be nice which is more than I can say about the guys that were making fun of me while I was sleeping in the paddock. I thought that I heard something about drool, then I woke up. Man, can't a person just close their eyes for a minute!

Next year it is your turn to mess with them LOLOLOL
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sorry if i got annoying at the bar. i guess he supplied a few more jagers than i have the ability to remember".

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Talk about drool, maybe they were talking about you.
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Sure had a good time in Portland, it was fun hanging out with you all. I'm going to have to look for more opportunities to apply the things that I learned on the track.

I need to work on identifying the distance that I need for braking. It seemed like I slowed down too soon and that my braking was too soft to get the reaction that I wanted. I needed to come in fast, brake hard then hit the corner accelerating. Like my instructor said, I had "a few moments of brilliance" but the rest was quite novice.

On corner 6 it felt like I was going too fast. I kept lifting my foot which of course is the wrong thing to do. I liked corner 7.

I wish there was a video of the course, I'd like to replay the corners and think about how they felt. What I really wish is that there was a T&T equivalent so that I could practice.

Alright enough rambling, it's Friday night in Port Townsend, Blues Festival is happening so there will be music in the bars, guess I'd better go check it out.

Later my friends, see you again. C


I think the more track time you get and the more you get to drive at speeds, the more everything starts to come naturally. Like when to brake, when to turn in, etc. You'll start identifying little spots on the track. Like a black marker on the wall you can use to know when to brake. There is a good spot on turn 7 on the track. It's a faint line that's a different color on the track itself. That is a pretty good line to drive your car straight at prior to turning. Another thing you can do to mentally practice is to just close your eyes. Imagine leaving the paddock and go through the entire track. Turn by turn, identify your turn ins, exits, and braking points. I use that sometimes. It's kinda weird but it works! Lastly, you have to relax your mind and let yourself go all out. The minute you worry about going too fast, or too slow, or worried about braking, etc.... you don't drive nearly as good as if you are relaxed.
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I think the more track time you get and the more you get to drive at speeds, the more everything starts to come naturally. Like when to brake, when to turn in, etc. You'll start identifying little spots on the track. Like a black marker on the wall you can use to know when to brake. There is a good spot on turn 7 on the track. It's a faint line that's a different color on the track itself. That is a pretty good line to drive your car straight at prior to turning. Another thing you can do to mentally practice is to just close your eyes. Imagine leaving the paddock and go through the entire track. Turn by turn, identify your turn ins, exits, and braking points. I use that sometimes. It's kinda weird but it works! Lastly, you have to relax your mind and let yourself go all out. The minute you worry about going too fast, or too slow, or worried about braking, etc.... you don't drive nearly as good as if you are relaxed.

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Lastly, you have to relax your mind and let yourself go all out. The minute you worry about going too fast, or too slow, or worried about braking, etc.... you don't drive nearly as good as if you are relaxed.


Great, now you tell me. I thought I was supposed to approach the track like a kamikaze. At least that's how it looks when you experienced guys are on the track.

When it comes to drag racing I do better if I'm not relaxed. After 15 or more passes I start to get comfy and my rt gets slow. Have to think about things that keep me on edge then I do OK.

Anyone interested in T&T Friday Aug. 15 at Bremerton? I'll be there around 5:30, have to work until 3:45 then drive down. Could get there quicker if it wasn't for the damn speed limits, constipated, agitated driving. Grrrrrrr. Good thing I get a little aggression out at the track or I'd be one frustrated chick.
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Great, now you tell me. I thought I was supposed to approach the track like a kamikaze. At least that's how it looks when you experienced guys are on the track.

When it comes to drag racing I do better if I'm not relaxed. After 15 or more passes I start to get comfy and my rt gets slow. Have to think about things that keep me on edge then I do OK.

Anyone interested in T&T Friday Aug. 15 at Bremerton? I'll be there around 5:30, have to work until 3:45 then drive down. Could get there quicker if it wasn't for the damn speed limits, constipated, agitated driving. Grrrrrrr. Good thing I get a little aggression out at the track or I'd be one frustrated chick.

I took Karate for 14 years and learned a few things that might help your relaxation problem. There are stages of relaxation and what your referring to is being comfortable. Comfortable is comparable to being lazy. Lazy is why your R/T's slow down as you start feeling relaxed.

It's like a spectrum
relaxed (lazy) < tense < relaxed (zen)

If you're relaxed in a sparring match, someone who is tense is predictable. You can see their motion before they move, you can out-think their next action. You can react to them before they have fully committed because your body is flowing as one machine. If you are tense, you can only really do 1 thing at at time. You can only look, or move your arm, or move your foot. You can't be fluid in your motions and use all your senses at the same time.

I know for HPDE you don't need to out-think the other drivers, or predict their motions but really relaxing will help everything come together at the same time. If you are tense you are going to have trouble sorting out everything that is involved with coming into a corner.

The reason your R/T's are only good when your tense is because that's all your focusing on. To actually be fast you are going to need a lot more than a good R/T. You need a good R/T, a solid 60', good shifts, and a clear head in case anything goes wrong. Really relax and you will almost never miss a shift, or fall asleep at the line.
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I think the more track time you get and the more you get to drive at speeds, the more everything starts to come naturally. Like when to brake, when to turn in, etc. You'll start identifying little spots on the track. Like a black marker on the wall you can use to know when to brake. There is a good spot on turn 7 on the track. It's a faint line that's a different color on the track itself. That is a pretty good line to drive your car straight at prior to turning. Another thing you can do to mentally practice is to just close your eyes. Imagine leaving the paddock and go through the entire track. Turn by turn, identify your turn ins, exits, and braking points. I use that sometimes. It's kinda weird but it works! Lastly, you have to relax your mind and let yourself go all out. The minute you worry about going too fast, or too slow, or worried about braking, etc.... you don't drive nearly as good as if you are relaxed.

has this fag asked you out for ice cream yet??

don't do it.....he'll slip you a mickey when you aint looking
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o snap. i thought you heard the conversation. here is what happened.

brian stands by your open drivers door window just staring like the fuck-tard that he is so i mention "she sleeps when she can." of course he is confused and keeps staring until you wake up. that was all brian if you ask me.

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Yep, that's pretty much how it went down...
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