I will get his car fixed, yes. So start a new thread on the intercoolers. This is not the proper place to ask a question about it.
So thus far we have determined that there are two middle men? I'm confused? Here's your new thread. Care to discuss? Are you cutting out one of the middle men?
We buy core, we have our own end tank design for the Caliber and MS3 now. We can do any combination of side or top or bottom feed end tank. We can only do 4 x 8 inch core up to 30 inches long. Our MS3 core supports up to 450 WHP and the Caliber core supports up to 500 WHP. We build all our own intercooler piping now as well as exhaust and intake systems.
We purchase core and build what we need for customers or for out kits.
I'm particulary curious about the Direct Fit Race version for $899 on your site... How much of that is made in house by you? That is a direction I will eventually need to go...
I'm particulary curious about the Direct Fit Race version for $899 on your site... How much of that is made in house by you? That is a direction I will eventually need to go...
Sorry, I don't think we can work together on that. I don't want to walk into a problem with the install or ??? considering our past. There are other places you can get intercoolers, please try there and if nothing works out then maybe we can find a resolution for your intercooler needs.
Please don't try to turn this around, I would rather not do any business with the FYC crew for way to many good reasons. If need be I can hook you up with someone else that can take care of you. Thanks.
No worries. I was asking because I didn't want to pay $900 for something I can get for half the price. Just wanted to make sure the other place would have a complete product or what the differences may be. I really like Ronin's.
Even if you don't want to sell me one, I would still like to know exactly what part of the manufacturing you are involved in with it. Would be educational none the less... And would also clear up the confusion noted above. Knowledge is power and i don't want to have bad info because then I may give bad info. you know what I mean? Pretty much set me straight and alleviate my doubts...
We have intercooler core.... we have endtanks.... we have pipe.... we make that fit your car or others cars. We assemble it, weld it, and powder coat it.
Not sure what your getting at but at this point it's moot. I have the Race and the DF Race units in stock, getting it for 1/2 the price, yea nice try (and you wonder why I don't want to do business with you).
We have intercooler core.... we have endtanks.... we have pipe.... we make that fit your car or others cars. We assemble it, weld it, and powder coat it.
Not sure what your getting at but at this point it's moot. I have the Race and the DF Race units in stock, getting it for 1/2 the price, yea nice try (and you wonder why I don't want to do business with you).
We have intercooler core.... we have endtanks.... we have pipe.... we make that fit your car or others cars. We assemble it, weld it, and powder coat it.
Not sure what your getting at but at this point it's moot. I have the Race and the DF Race units in stock, getting it for 1/2 the price, yea nice try (and you wonder why I don't want to do business with you).
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Sorry, I don't think we can work together on that. I don't want to walk into a problem with the install or ??? considering our past. There are other places you can get intercoolers, please try there and if nothing works out then maybe we can find a resolution for your intercooler needs.
Please don't try to turn this around, I would rather not do any business with the FYC crew for way to many good reasons. If need be I can hook you up with someone else that can take care of you. Thanks.
No wondering here... I suppose we are both aware of why we won't do business with each other... You are intimidated by FYC for some odd reason, and I don't agree with your ethics nor am I fan of your parts... Except for the IC in question. I do really like that setup... $900 though...
No wondering here... I suppose we are both aware of why we won't do business with each other... You are intimidated by FYC for some odd reason, and I don't agree with your ethics nor am I fan of your parts... Except for the IC in question. I do really like that setup... $900 though...
I doubt that because when I confronted that whole group of people, there was no itimidation on my part.
$900 gets you everything from the turbo to the throttle body, really.... not a bad price.
I guess Brian I have to ask, why ask the questions that you have if you never planed on buying one in the first place? You have stated that you don't like my ethics nor my parts, soooooooo why even bother making a thread about "locally made intercoolers" if you didn't plan on buying one? I mean come on, if there was no "wondering" why post, why make a thread, why waste my time and yours? I just don't get it.
I was curious about the product itself, for as I have stated, I really like it. I was also curious to what part of the manufacturing process you were involved in, which I haven't really gotten a straight answer on. Before i purchase a product, i research it thoroughly. Try to only buy things once you know? So regardless of where I buy it from, I would want to know where the parts are manufactured and where they are assembled. In this case you led me to believe that you build this part, which contradicts some of my research. That is why I asked. If you actually do build this product and PTP is the only place to buy it (since you build it), then I guess i would just have to wait around for a used one. If in fact you do not build it (which was my initial understanding), I would then know I could purchase it new without any worries....
On top of that, as you know, word of mouth is the best advertisement. If you do actually build these, it would be wrong of me to state otherwise if ever brought up in converstation. I don't want to offer false information to anyone. On the flip side, if you do not build these, it would be wrong to state so.....
I thought it was a legitimate request? Just tryin to talk parts... Not so much how much $ or where to buy from... That part comes later....
I was curious about the product itself, for as I have stated, I really like it. I was also curious to what part of the manufacturing process you were involved in, which I haven't really gotten a straight answer on. Before i purchase a product, i research it thoroughly. Try to only buy things once you know? So regardless of where I buy it from, I would want to know where the parts are manufactured and where they are assembled. In this case you led me to believe that you build this part, which contradicts some of my research. That is why I asked. If you actually do build this product and PTP is the only place to buy it (since you build it), then I guess i would just have to wait around for a used one. If in fact you do not build it (which was my initial understanding), I would then know I could purchase it new without any worries....
On top of that, as you know, word of mouth is the best advertisement. If you do actually build these, it would be wrong of me to state otherwise if ever brought up in converstation. I don't want to offer false information to anyone. On the flip side, if you do not build these, it would be wrong to state so.....
I thought it was a legitimate request? Just tryin to talk parts... Not so much how much $ or where to buy from... That part comes later....
Legitimate, yes. Talking parts, why?
I am having a hard time understanding what you don't get so I guess I will spell it out for you.
We buy core (blank with no ends on them, no tanks, nothing).
We manufacture our own end tanks (smoke tested to 35 psi for flow and even disstribution) that are .100 thick and made of 5052 material (thickest that I know of for an automotive application).
We weld/install tube ends to the end tanks.
Weld/install the tanks to the blank core.
Pressure test to 35 psi... intercooler is done.
Next, intercooler pipe. Some of it comes from our supplier and the rest we make ourselfs. We have jigs for the intercooler piping and when its all done we either send it out for powdercoating or do it in house (PC gun is here just waiting on the oven).
Now that I have explained that to you... I hope the disscussion is over and done with. I see that you are moving from
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I don't agree with your ethics nor am I fan of your parts... Except for the IC in question. I do really like that setup... $900 though...
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I didn't want to pay $900 for something I can get for half the price.
and now you are stating
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Not so much how much $ or where to buy from... That part comes later
So what is it, I am either gay for the price and you don't like my ethics and now you have changed your mind because money isn't the issue? Brain your talking yourself in circles trying to get me into a debate.
Plain and simple truth, we have them in stock and ready to ship. Both the RACE DF unit and the full RACE unit. I have all the pipe's ready to ship with them and we are ready to go with any future purchases. I hope this answers your questions about what we have and what we do with the intercoolers, thanks.
Exactly the info I was looking for. I appreciate the explanation John. I like when peeps are able to get down to the nitty gritty about products.
Wasn't looking for a debate, was essentially looking for the info you just provided. Guess the $900 = was just a sidenote, my bad. Still don't see how anyone could charge more than $500 for any type of direct fit, but that is just IMO.....
I didn't think that a direct fit was in fact over $500 from PTP
Two completely different products friend.
This is the race it comes complete with charge pipe, hot side, cold side and all couplers to install. This does require some modification to install the hot and cold pipes. cutting about a 3X3 inch hole each side of the endtanks.
If you add it up its not a bad price. (although I did get mine in the GB last year for less) compared to the other direct fits I currently have a QW 4 in for $225 but it pushes out my front bumper or the AGP at 4.5 in $550 no pipes with either. you can always find a better deal with time to put it all together sepreately.
Just my .04 or $800
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