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Stock 04/05 injectors can get you to around a 19-20ish psi spike holding about 17 tappering down to 14-15 at 6K rpms on pump. This is with a 255 and a rewire. Also depends on how dirty the FPR filter is... that makes quite a bit of a differance.
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damn im gonna need biger injectors and a rescale. well i can see what i can safley run with the boost box and intune. hopefully it will keep me happy for a minute. im gonna control boost with the boost box i think its easier, i will report back later the intune should be here this afternoon. im gonna look at that fpr to see if i can shoot some carb clean thru it to clean it so i know that isnt holdin me back. thanks dude
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Stock injectors can get you over a larger spike especially if you have a walbro with a rewire.
Most stock turbo only hold between 14-16 psi to 6K. Very few over 17.
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ok i got the boost box set on 16.5 and my fuel leans out to 11.8 but it holds 16.5 to red line. stock turbo. think i got my fuel maxed out. i need injectors and rescale. and 3bar map and tps. and and the list never gets smaller lol. intune and boost box quick cheap power.
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damn im gonna need biger injectors and a rescale. well i can see what i can safley run with the boost box and intune. hopefully it will keep me happy for a minute. im gonna control boost with the boost box i think its easier, i will report back later the intune should be here this afternoon. im gonna look at that fpr to see if i can shoot some carb clean thru it to clean it so i know that isnt holdin me back. thanks dude
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Yes and no.
If you'd like to understand how, learn how duty cycle operation works on a solenoid. A turbo is only going to boost what it is capable of doing, regardless of if the WG is held shut or not, so don't assume it's a miracle mod that will let you hold a large psi on a stocker.
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ok i got the boost box set on 16.5 and my fuel leans out to 11.8 but it holds 16.5 to red line. stock turbo. think i got my fuel maxed out. i need injectors and rescale. and 3bar map and tps. and and the list never gets smaller lol. intune and boost box quick cheap power.
You have an issue if your injectors are maxed out at just 16 psi....
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ok had the intune for a week now and kinda figuring it out. i hald 16.5 to red line with my boost box i can go to 17 but it will somtimes overboost throwing the overboost protection dropin boost to 10 so its set on 16.5 till i get a 3bar. my fuel is good i actually have to lean it out on 3to4k rpm and give it 15% rich in 4to5k then in 5to6k im 30% and in 6to7 40%. it holds 11.5 at redline and at 3to4k is around 10.8. to be honest i need to read more before i drive the srt hard i need a tune but dony have the money now. any advice on that is appreciated but ill go to the ds workgroup for more answers. the boost box is great and it holds boost to redline for me even at 17 but its a stocker and low boost. i love the phrase ignarence is bliss because i am trickin the ecu all the time cant be good, but ill run it for now. i got to read a lot more.
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Slo 04: I am unsure of what is considered to be safe with these injectors, but I know I have always gone with anything over 85% duty cycle to be hard on the injectors, eventually leading to failure or an uneven a/f between cylinders. I recommend you tune for 11:1 a/f, maybe 11.5:1, with injector duty cycle being no greater than 85%. At that point, if you are like me, and would rather give up a little smile factor, inplace of not worrying as much, I would back the boost off by .5-1 psi, just to be safe.
Then again, I come from a dsmer background, so those numbers may vary a little with this being a different car. I am pretty sure I am spot on though, with maybe the exception of the safe a/f. Hope this helps. Boost on!!! |
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Slo 04: I am unsure of what is considered to be safe with these injectors, but I know I have always gone with anything over 85% duty cycle to be hard on the injectors, eventually leading to failure or an uneven a/f between cylinders. I recommend you tune for 11:1 a/f, maybe 11.5:1, with injector duty cycle being no greater than 85%. At that point, if you are like me, and would rather give up a little smile factor, inplace of not worrying as much, I would back the boost off by .5-1 psi, just to be safe.
Then again, I come from a dsmer background, so those numbers may vary a little with this being a different car. I am pretty sure I am spot on though, with maybe the exception of the safe a/f. Hope this helps. Boost on!!! Thanks dude, ive done alot of reading and I totaly agree with all you said. But I talked to duster360 and got some 1025, no lack of fuel now. E85 is crazy. Im runnin 23psi on the booat box for 3,4,5 gears first is 10 and second is 15, totally diffrent car. The injectors are on sale for $326 with tunes, its a great dea. |
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Do I need a tune for the lower boost settings on first, second and third gear??
I'm big turbo tuned on DSP if your tune is good...it coordinates fueling from the map sensor, TPS columns and RPM. So whether you run 12 psi or 28 psi as long as your map sensor has resolution you will maintain pretty much the same AFR through each gear
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