Help me out here, new to the SCT thing. I see different versions offered, 3 actually, huge range in price. Can someone explain to me the differences and what they tune?
xcal is 700 w/ map sensor from AGP, or 535+ buy your own sensor from Pwerks.
these are flashes the vendor send you. you cant see/adjust them.
prp is the full software. it is 1000 + the cost of the sensors.
the PRP isnt exactly tuner friendly, and makes the aem ems software look like a childrens book imo (easy). if you dont know how to tune a standalone or the concept, you are better off getting a flashed tune and be happy w/ it.
xcal is 700 w/ map sensor from AGP, or 535+ buy your own sensor from Pwerks.
these are flashes the vendor send you. you cant see/adjust them.
prp is the full software. it is 1000 + the cost of the sensors.
the PRP isnt exactly tuner friendly, and makes the aem ems software look like a childrens book imo (easy). if you dont know how to tune a standalone or the concept, you are better off getting a flashed tune and be happy w/ it.
I am stage 2 already so my sensors are good right? What can i adjust with the xcal? Is torque management and all that taken out?
I am stage 2 already so my sensors are good right? What can i adjust with the xcal? Is torque management and all that taken out?
sell your s2 and make some money from that.
keep the sensors. they are the 1s you need.
you cant adjust anything w/ the xcal. its just the flasher. one PLUS w/ the xcals tho is you get FREE reflashes from pwerks or agp...whoever you purchase from.
you cant adjust anything w/ the xcal. its just the flasher. one PLUS w/ the xcals tho is you get FREE reflashes from pwerks or agp...whoever you purchase from.
it takes the hassle out of tuning.
Can I break 300 hp level most people are getting with stock turbo / manifolds?
Can I break 300 hp level most people are getting with stock turbo / manifolds?
you can do that w/o the SCT.
if you buy the flash from Pwerks or AGP...most likely not.
to reach 300hp, you need to run an ultra aggressive timing map. none of which either company will sell you since they intend to only make maps that are safe and good for everyone and dont want to be held responsible.
on stock turbo, you're better off s2 injectors and a dtec.
full bolt ons, s2inj, dtec, 23psi, and race gas, and itll get you there.
So you really feel the sct only benefits modified stock turbos, stage 3s, or big turbo guys? I was told by some that i can out do a stage 2 with a map modifier (ie dtec or safc).
for a stock turbo...what would it truly benefit you?
no point of revving higher.
youll need fuel anyways.
aggressive timing needed? dtec can do so.
ive done 300hp stock turbo, and 320+ on an sst. both on pump gas. WITHOUT an SCT.
all im saying is, the "aggressive" maps you're looking to get from a vendor...wont happen.
300hp stockers have been around since the start of 04. just follow the how-to by aaron.
if you go bigger turbo, give agp or pwerks a call and the sct will do you good.
I am def. going SST this summer or E2, s3d, so i guess dtec is the way to go for now. I am also considering the big turbo, but the jump in price is substantial.
I am def. going SST this summer or E2, s3d, so i guess dtec is the way to go for now. I am also considering the big turbo, but the jump in price is substantial.
the price isnt that far off.
considering w/ the e2 is more than the price of a reg. priced big turbo.
then you need to factor in fuel, intimidator mani, standard bolt on upgrades, etc.
ive gone thru ported stocker/ported mani w/ s2 inj, then to sst/i mani w/ ext. gate w/ 650s to big turbo w/ 750s.
the sst/mani/fuel setup cost the same as a big turbo setup
i will NEVER look back at a stocker setup...
get AGP's s3 delta setup and be happy. i tested it for em and loved it. 3200rpm FULL spool on the street, and made 415hp.
Drastic is giving you good advice. My personal opinion is that every car should have SCT no matter what you're running but if but if you don't want every little bit of power, and have someone that can get it for you, SCT is not worth the investment. You can get close to the same performance from using a piggyback. It takes some experience with PCM tuning to make much progress with the SCT software, and you can do some real damage if you don't know what you're doing.
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