Some simple questions

[dafaic]

I had a 05 Mustang back in 11/04 and was one of the first to get a xcalibrator so I am not new to sct. I liked the plug and play.

Would a base tune work for me? Or would the dealer tune for the bfmic and agp wg, and cutout exhaust?

I guess I wouldn't need the non fouler mod or fadtip mod anymore huh?

What about the agp bleeder valve?

Hard to believe how expensive these things are now I paid $275 for the mustangs and it came with 3 tunes.

Saw on the board $600 and 1 tune.

They really got 247 hp outta a stock 05 srt-4 that pretty amazing. Thats about $20/hp which is pretty reasonable.

[ojcool]

[quote=dafaic;5545385]I had a 05 Mustang back in 11/04 and was one of the first to get a xcalibrator so I am not new to sct. I liked the plug and play.

Would a base tune work for me? Or would the dealer tune for the bfmic and agp wg, and cutout exhaust? Yes, a base tune would run the car, but who knows what A/F you would be getting. Mail order tuning is generally a bad idea unless you have the equipment to provide datalogs to the tuner.

I guess I wouldn't need the non fouler mod or fadtip mod anymore huh? No you would not need either

What about the agp bleeder valve? Nope, not here we can tune for complete PCM controlled boost.

Hard to believe how expensive these things are now I paid $275 for the mustangs and it came with 3 tunes.

Saw on the board $600 and 1 tune. And the one tune is the "free tune" anyone can download off SCT's website.

They really got 247 hp outta a stock 05 srt-4 that pretty amazing. Thats about $20/hp which is pretty reasonable.

[Mana4real]

I don't know where people come off paying 275 for a programmer and three tunes. That's insane. Most places are at least 350 for the Xcals and then dyno time which is a couple hours... So at least 500 to 550... Isn't that about how it goes at your shop Ojcool?

[dafaic]

well I only found one local sct dealer that has dyno and tuning capabilities. I have sent them an e-mail. I am afraid though if they don't know anything about the srt-4 is that going to be a smart idea?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mana4real

I don't know where people come off paying 275 for a programmer and three tunes. That's insane. Most places are at least 350 for the Xcals and then dyno time which is a couple hours... So at least 500 to 550... Isn't that about how it goes at your shop Ojcool?

Well, we don't use the Xcals on the majority of the cars we see because you don't need them for Pre 2005 cars. We burn Chips, the chip has muliple banks for different tunes and you can set them up to have a swich the customer can change between them, It's rare that Dave will allow a customer to get a flip chip though. He has to pretty much know you personally because if you give a guy a wicked tune for race fuel on a flip and he races someone an loses he has a tendency to flip the chip to the high octane tune for the next run even if he dosen't have the race fuel in the tank. Then they come back saying your tune blew up their engine. They are very protective of the shops reputation.
Tell you one thing, buring chips is a WHOLE hell of alot faster than reflashing the PCM. It takes about 40 seconds, then you just take the chip out of the burner and plug it into the PCM and your running. Not like using an Xcal.

I can tell you this. The dealer buy in for the SRT is $2500, this gets you the dealer software. Dealer cost for DCX Xcals is $399 if memory servs. I assume SCT allows a bigger discount if you buy them in bulk.

You can't compare the cost of the 2005 mustang stuff to the DCX stuff. SCT already pretty much had the Ford PCM hacked from supporting the Fox Body mustangs and then the 99 and up ones. So they didn't have alot of R&D. Plus and this is the main reason. No one else has a PCM flash for the SRT so they are of corse taking that into account with their pricing.

[dafaic]

Well no one local thats an sct dealer that dyno tunes (all 2 of them) will return my e-mails so I guess this is out.

I know that they have to set the base tune to be safe for all cars which will leave some cars rich as hell and other cars right on the mark. I did see on the sct forums that they have some tunes people have uploaded for people to use or to look at.

[nemiro]

Try fwdperformance.com in Spring, TX. A bit of a ride for you, but they do have a dyno, and lots of SRT experience. They can fix you up with a SCT package.

[dafaic]

Wow thanks...$995 for Dyno tune is steep though. I guess they realize they have a niche in the market as well. You get what you pay for though. I think I may want to do a few more things to the car in preparation before I go do that. Like a return line system, real cai instead of my homemade sri, and a tune up.

Thanks again and I'll be looking for them come tax time...

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Quote: Originally Posted by dafaic

Wow thanks...$995 for Dyno tune is steep though. I guess they realize they have a niche in the market as well. You get what you pay for though. I think I may want to do a few more things to the car in preparation before I go do that. Like a return line system, real cai instead of my homemade sri, and a tune up.

Thanks again and I'll be looking for them come tax time...

Keep in mind that the more highly modified your car is the more time (and cost) it's going to take to get it tuned.

If you have a way to datalog I would be willing to work with you on sending you flashes... But you would have to buy the pro racer package which I highly recommend anyway. Honestly for a little more money you can have control of your own car, try different things and in the long run save yourself a lot of dough by reducing the amount of dyno time your going to need. I would go pro racer in your situation. No shop nearby and all. And for datalogging get the innovate 4 channel box and an LC-1 wideband.