Nope. The original thought was that it was tip voltage, but it's not. The throttle is what you use to request torque, the more throttle you give it, the more torque you want. Pushing the gas pedal all the way to the floor will only get you approx. 2.8 volts on the TPS signal, that's why there are no rows after that voltage. You can't ask for more torque than you are asking for at WOT. The lower voltage rows are "part throttle" rows. Less throttle means you want less torque. I guess this should of been in the explination on the wiki but it can always be added.
looking through the codes, wot is at 2.331v on the tps.
I was confusing MAP vs TIP voltage, I stand corrected
The NGC is a very generic controller. Chrysler is using it on allot of cars that are both automatic and manual. In the cars with manuals there is no way to know if it is in gear or in nuetral so it ignores the "in gear" limiter and always works from the "in nuetral" limit. This is why gear based torque reduction doesn't work. The car doesn't know what gear it is in or if it is even in a gear.
i will have to try it to confirm
but from what i know yes you can adjust max torque my gear it change a bit from code to code
but from what i know yes you can adjust max torque my gear it change a bit from code to code
the pcm know the gear comparing rpm and speed
That was my understanding as well...
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which processor code are you guys using then? I've been working with the 05029832AE. It shows a table for 0 to 10 gear, but has had no affact on my power levels. Speed based has been the only thing that has worked for me so far. If it's working in one of the other codes, let's get that documented on the wiki!!!
which processor code are you guys using then? I've been working with the 05029832AE. It shows a table for 0 to 10 gear, but has had no affact on my power levels. Speed based has been the only thing that has worked for me so far. If it's working in one of the other codes, let's get that documented on the wiki!!!
I haven't actually confirmed it works yet but Dave with SCT said he has successfully used it.
I'm using the 04510850AA processor code. I'll try to see if I can confirm functionality tonight...
Any word on this? If you didn't get a chance, I'll probably try it again in a different code tonight.
Well, I tested it last night and it does NOT appear to work. I'm going to contact Dave and see if he can shed some light. For the moment though it's no dice!
Also, how were you able to get the speed based boost to work? That table only has one row from the calibrations I've seen...
What this does is gives me 10 PSI in first gear till about 5K then it shoots up to 15...
Second gear was at about 22 or 23 PSI with my E1... I need to play with it more and get it down.
I have a decent tune now, so this was next on my list to play with... I should be messing with it within the next week.
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that means that you are not running the 3 bar map and tip sensor ?
and that you have to change your redline to 6.5 ?
I'm thinking about switching to the S0 processor code in order to have the speed dependan boost control, but I'm to lazy to switch all the other features of the S2 code...
Well, I tested it last night and it does NOT appear to work. I'm going to contact Dave and see if he can shed some light. For the moment though it's no dice!
Also, how were you able to get the speed based boost to work? That table only has one row from the calibrations I've seen...
straight from the wiki;
Description:
This funtion is a little backwards. You cannot limit boost by gears because the car is a manual but you can limit the boost by MPH. There are only 2
processor codes that have the 5 value tables for this. These are 05029832AE and 04510848AA. All the other codes only have a single value. To be
able to use this funtion you need to start with one of these 2 codes.
As far as copying everything over to a stock tune from a stage 2 tune, you can check mark all the needed areas(turbocharger, speed density, fuel, etc.) and save those out of the stage 2 file and then load them right into the stock tune. You do have to check that the numbers still make sense because sometimes they get scrambled.
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that means that you are not running the 3 bar map and tip sensor ?
and that you have to change your redline to 6.5 ?
I'm thinking about switching to the S0 processor code in order to have the speed dependan boost control, but I'm to lazy to switch all the other features of the S2 code...
Yes, I am running the stage 2 code. I have the 3 bar sensors and redline is set at 6500 already with stage 2. I will get it somewhat figured out soon. I don't want to switch everything over. I should be fine running the stage 2 code... I don't see any downfall to it. When smog time comes around I am going to put it all back to stock anyways. Stock tune, injectors, sensors... No big deal. It's easy.
This funtion is a little backwards. You cannot limit boost by gears because the car is a manual but you can limit the boost by MPH. There are only 2
processor codes that have the 5 value tables for this. These are 05029832AE and 04510848AA. All the other codes only have a single value. To be
able to use this funtion you need to start with one of these 2 codes.
As far as copying everything over to a stock tune from a stage 2 tune, you can check mark all the needed areas(turbocharger, speed density, fuel, etc.) and save those out of the stage 2 file and then load them right into the stock tune. You do have to check that the numbers still make sense because sometimes they get scrambled.
Wow, go figure! I need to pay more attention!
Mana, so you have had luck with the gear specific boost? Last night I played with all the values and could not change boost at all. No gear showed any signs of boost reduction or increase. You should definitely play around with it on your car and see what you can come up with. This is a feature I definitely would like to have.
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