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Old 06-30-2008, 08:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by sour kraut View Post
desired torque added. I think I added 2 copies of the pic though



Awesome, thank you very much once again !


I created two more pages myself:
Convert PW to Fuel Mass - SCT SRT Wiki
Fuel Mass to PW Conversion - SCT SRT Wiki
Those are still works in progress

Also added a 'create page' link on the front page main page and added an 'all pages' to the nav bar so we can easily see all the pages on the site.

Next I'd like to get around to creating some 'tuning basics' pages, like setting up for bigger injectors and a return line, boost management, etc.

Thanks again for your help Sour Kraut! And everyone else to, don't be shy
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Next I'd like to get around to creating some 'tuning basics' pages, like setting up for bigger injectors and a return line, boost management, etc.

changing injectors and RRFPR added. Boost management was pretty covered slightly with the Desired Torque page but can be redone.
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changing injectors and RRFPR added. Boost management was pretty covered slightly with the Desired Torque page but can be redone.


Once again, I can't thank you enough!

Changing Fuel Injectors - SCT SRT Wiki

I have couple php scripts kicking around that can do the fuel conversion by just the user putting in their new injector size and fuel pressure. I think I might add that to that page if I get a minute tonight

The Desired Torque - SCT SRT Wiki page is great! I think its just fine IMO. Im wondering where my mind was when I typed that post last night?

The page is starting to come together now, thanks so much again for your help!

Already alot of great info on there, and Im sure more to come. Anything else you think we should be concentrating on right now?
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The Desired Torque - SCT SRT Wiki page is great! I think its just fine IMO. Im wondering where my mind was when I typed that post last night?

The page is starting to come together now, thanks so much again for your help!

Already alot of great info on there, and Im sure more to come. Anything else you think we should be concentrating on right now?

Too late, I already added boost control... i have nothing better to do at work. I'm gonna add gear/speed based boost either later today or tomorrow. besides that, you may want to find the little things scattered through out this forum like the fan controls, setting up 3 bar, rev limiter, speed limiter. The basic stuff.
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Quote: Originally Posted by sour kraut View Post
Too late, I already added boost control... i have nothing better to do at work. I'm gonna add gear/speed based boost either later today or tomorrow. besides that, you may want to find the little things scattered through out this forum like the fan controls, setting up 3 bar, rev limiter, speed limiter. The basic stuff.


That will be my goal tonight (time permitting) as well as getting the fuel calculators up. Thanks again for the help! We should sticky this thing soon
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stuck!!

speed based boost added.

To everyone else, Please add any information you can to the wiki. The more people we get working on this, the better it will become!!

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Thanks again Sour Kraut!

I was busy at work tonight so I didn't get as much done as I planned. It also turns out I lost my old php script calculators too so I have to write them from scratch again

Either way I was able to create two new pages:
Raising Your Redline - SCT SRT Wiki
Rev Limiter In Drive - SCT SRT Wiki

And I also whipped up a quick Fuel Calculator for figuring out you fuel needs for the Changing Fuel Injectors - SCT SRT Wiki

It can be found here:
Injector Flow Conversion Calculator by NickFury

Please test that and let me know if you find any issues, I made it very quickly


Please everyone if you can get a few minutes, please sign up and help out by either editing a previously made page or creating one yourself

Some pages that I think it could use off the top of my head are:
Scaling for 3 BAR MAP/TIP
Fan Configuration
Speed Limiter
Basics of the NGC
WOT tuning

Also remember that you can create a page for just yourself as well... since Im allowing the uploading of .mtf and .ll3 files you can use the site to host your own tunes as well

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Looks good guys!

I definitely can help out with a few things but I'm a bit limited on time... I'll do what I can though!

Keep it up!
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Looks good guys!

I definitely can help out with a few things but I'm a bit limited on time... I'll do what I can though!

Keep it up!

every little bit helps.
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Once again, I can't thank you enough!

Changing Fuel Injectors - SCT SRT Wiki

I have couple php scripts kicking around that can do the fuel conversion by just the user putting in their new injector size and fuel pressure. I think I might add that to that page if I get a minute tonight

The Desired Torque - SCT SRT Wiki page is great! I think its just fine IMO. Im wondering where my mind was when I typed that post last night?

The page is starting to come together now, thanks so much again for your help!

Already alot of great info on there, and Im sure more to come. Anything else you think we should be concentrating on right now?

For the torque table...

Im pretty sure the Y axis is TIP voltage, or atmospheric pressure. Throttle position sensor is 0-5volts, so i dont think that is accurate (yours only goes to 2.8 volts). I think the fact that your boost changes based on changes to this table is becuase you are fooling the computer to think there is a different outside air pressure, and so it is adding more boost to compensate. Just throwing that out there, I dont even own an SCT, just a fellow subscriber.
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Awesome work guys! I will eventually go SCT and this info will be great to have on hand. Thank you for adding to the SCT knowledge base!

One quick question, looking at the wiki on raising the rev limit and I see a scalar option for 'neutral rev limit' Am I to assume this could be a setting for a psudo wot-box? Or does it have another function?
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Looks good guys!

I definitely can help out with a few things but I'm a bit limited on time... I'll do what I can though!

Keep it up!


That would be great, it would appreciated by all Im sure!
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Awesome work guys! I will eventually go SCT and this info will be great to have on hand. Thank you for adding to the SCT knowledge base!

One quick question, looking at the wiki on raising the rev limit and I see a scalar option for 'neutral rev limit' Am I to assume this could be a setting for a psudo wot-box? Or does it have another function?

I remember OJCool talking about this table at one point, he said that it didnt what you think it would, it would set your rev limit to that value, even though you were in gear. He was unsure if it really did do something else or if the table did not work correctly?

As far a psudo wot-box, would you be refering to the new ones that have a two-step? there is not any functionality built into the software right now for a two step, but assuming that neutral rev limit table did waht it said it, could get close. I'll have to play around with the table and let you know my results.

Maybe someone else will chime in as well.
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For the torque table...

Im pretty sure the Y axis is TIP voltage, or atmospheric pressure. Throttle position sensor is 0-5volts, so i dont think that is accurate (yours only goes to 2.8 volts). I think the fact that your boost changes based on changes to this table is becuase you are fooling the computer to think there is a different outside air pressure, and so it is adding more boost to compensate. Just throwing that out there, I dont even own an SCT, just a fellow subscriber.

Nope. The original thought was that it was tip voltage, but it's not. The throttle is what you use to request torque, the more throttle you give it, the more torque you want. Pushing the gas pedal all the way to the floor will only get you approx. 2.8 volts on the TPS signal, that's why there are no rows after that voltage. You can't ask for more torque than you are asking for at WOT. The lower voltage rows are "part throttle" rows. Less throttle means you want less torque. I guess this should of been in the explination on the wiki but it can always be added.

looking through the codes, wot is at 2.331v on the tps.

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I remember OJCool talking about this table at one point, he said that it didnt what you think it would, it would set your rev limit to that value, even though you were in gear. He was unsure if it really did do something else or if the table did not work correctly?

As far a psudo wot-box, would you be refering to the new ones that have a two-step? there is not any functionality built into the software right now for a two step, but assuming that neutral rev limit table did waht it said it, could get close. I'll have to play around with the table and let you know my results.

Maybe someone else will chime in as well.

The NGC is a very generic controller. Chrysler is using it on allot of cars that are both automatic and manual. In the cars with manuals there is no way to know if it is in gear or in nuetral so it ignores the "in gear" limiter and always works from the "in nuetral" limit. This is why gear based torque reduction doesn't work. The car doesn't know what gear it is in or if it is even in a gear.
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