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Old 03-13-2008, 01:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i am looking to buy s3 turbo and manifold
my mods are in the signature
could this actually work?

what else would i need
what power should i expect out of this?
thank you for the input
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Yes it would work.

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Old 03-13-2008, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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3 bar sensors and injectors. It will work just fine. Just make sure you have a good tuner.
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ok will do, thanks guys
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but why buy the stage III turbo setup? It's really not that good of a turbo. The whole point of using it is the fact that it's all Plug and Play together.
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Quote: Originally Posted by gumenimedo View Post
i am looking to buy s3 turbo and manifold
my mods are in the signature
could this actually work?

what else would i need
what power should i expect out of this?
thank you for the input

You should get a return line setup,sell your agp WGA get a Stage 3 AGP wga,sell the Neo,get a good SCT tune. I'm currently putting down 365 whp. stock wheel stage 3/stock pcm. Full bolt ons on pump gas and meth injection. The stage 3 is a killer street turbo ohh and it does its job at the track too.
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Quote: Originally Posted by 2Spools View Post
You should get a return line setup,sell your agp WGA get a Stage 3 AGP wga,sell the Neo,get a good SCT tune. I'm currently putting down 365 whp. stock wheel stage 3/stock pcm. Full bolt ons on pump gas and meth injection. The stage 3 is a killer street turbo ohh and it does its job at the track too.

Well, maybe I should not have said it's not a good turbo. Depends on what you're trying to do I suppose. However I tend to prefer externally wastegated turbochargers especially when looking at 1/4 geared setups. The 3071 is a good street turbo. The 3076 is a little lazy on the spool to really be a good street turbo but i may change my mind about that when I get it dialed in a little better. Hauls ass after 3k rpms though!
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you need the 3 bar map and 650 injectors. you will run lean with the S2 inj. trust me, I know :-)
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S2 injectors = S3 injectors = 682cc injectors (at 58psi). Should be plenty with some kind of FPR, upgraded fuel pump and fuel management.

But, every car is different...
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what power should i expect out of this?

you "should" make around 310-320whp on a DynoJet with 93+ octane @ 20psi or so.

with more boost (24-26psi) and some race gas (w/ more timing) Id say 350-370whp isnt out of the question.

FWIW-I made ~340whp on 23psi with VERY minimal bolt-ons with AGPs SCT flash.
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Quote: Originally Posted by csufdrew View Post
you "should" make around 310-320whp on a DynoJet with 93+ octane @ 20psi or so.

with more boost (24-26psi) and some race gas (w/ more timing) Id say 350-370whp isnt out of the question.

FWIW-I made ~340whp on 23psi with VERY minimal bolt-ons with AGPs SCT flash.

mod list please
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S3 turbo (stock)
AGP WGA
3" O2
3" TBE w/ cat & muffler
ED WUSS IC
AGP 650s
walbro 255 pump

thats it. No knock at all.

my 91oct map made ~300whp Dynojet equiv (20psi)
my 100oct map made ~340whp Dynojet equiv (23psi)

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Quote: Originally Posted by lulu View Post
S2 injectors = S3 injectors = 682cc injectors (at 58psi). Should be plenty with some kind of FPR, upgraded fuel pump and fuel management.

But, every car is different...

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. I have found that stage II injectors have been more than enough even with a 3076R. When I first started this project I did the math on the 682cc injectors and found them to be more than enough to support 450hp with a static fuel pressure of 58psi. In the real world I have found this to be true. I was never able to figure out why guys were running these massive injectors and then having to turn the static fuel pressure down to get the car to run.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ojcool View Post
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. I have found that stage II injectors have been more than enough even with a 3076R. When I first started this project I did the math on the 682cc injectors and found them to be more than enough to support 450hp with a static fuel pressure of 58psi. In the real world I have found this to be true. I was never able to figure out why guys were running these massive injectors and then having to turn the static fuel pressure down to get the car to run.

Current fuel system
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I ran out of fuel on my setup... With the 675's I have plenty of fuel now. But I would spike super lean at 24psi + above 5K rpms. It was nuts. Now I am pulling crazy fuel. But the car still drives great and no issues.
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subscribed. waiting on a ported stg 3 turbo/mani right now. am strongly considering the sct.
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