new innovate ot-1

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ok it's out but is somebody knowing if srt is sopported

for sur i could get timing (sorry mana4real) and trim temp and stuff

i asked in there forum if it would see knock ...will see

anyway i can't do much...i have to send my xcal back he decided to change is serial number on it's own...and the dongle doesn't agree

fucking srt ... feel like when you change pcm wrong skim


http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...s/OpenTune.pdf

[gotboost?]

It appears that anything made after 1996 is supported. I guess that would include an srt-4

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will see sone enough...one is coming my way

[ojcool]

Damn, thats a very reasonable price too. This may make it very possible to do some mail order tuning. I'm very interested to see what you find out with this..

[ojcool]

Have you gotten it yet? How bout now, how about now. how bout now. Seriously I want to know the minute you get that thing. Give me the tracking number... j/k


I really do want to know about it. Makes me wish I didn't get the SSI4 box, this is so much easier. No wiring no calibration, no problem.

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Ha! I ordered one too. And I called Lloyd and he is sending mine out like 2 minutes before yours tomorrow, so I'll have mine first!!!!

[Mana4real]

Crap... I am an innovate dealer... I could get it super cheap!! maybe I will get that and an LC1/XD16 and sell my other stuff.

[ojcool]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mana4real

Crap... I am an innovate dealer... I could get it super cheap!! maybe I will get that and an LC1/XD16 and sell my other stuff.

Shit why didn't you mention that earlier I would have gotten it from you.

[Mana4real]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojcool

Shit why didn't you mention that earlier I would have gotten it from you.

Because I usually don't advertise my position ... Then I get PM after PM after PM about people I never talk to wanting shit. Hell, I just work here. Trying to get out of it though. Working on getting a better job with the government any guesses?

[ojcool]

What kind of deal can you work me on one of those shifter knobs that has the LED's in it, a NOS fire extinguisher (with pillar mounting kit) and a set of those Nitrous Express floormats?

[Mana4real]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojcool

What kind of deal can you work me on one of those shifter knobs that has the LED's in it, a NOS fire extinguisher (with pillar mounting kit) and a set of those Nitrous Express floormats?

Ummmm But if you are serious and want something besides ricey shit, PM me. I will shoot YOU a number to reach me.

[blackbird_R/T]

They've got the user's manual posted at this link and as expected and what they had originally stated is that it only supports the "generic" OBD-II data mandated by the EPA. What that means is this will work just like any other generic scan tool and more significantly, it won't provide things like knock retard for those trying to tunes their cars. Below is a list of the supported parameters (not all of which are applicable to all cars):

Quote:

Appendix B: Supported PIDs
Name – Description Units Min. Max
"RPM - Engine RPM", "RPM", 0.0, 10230.0,
"TP - Throttle Position(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"LOAD_PCT - Engine Load(calc)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"SPARKADV - Timing Advance(cyl1)", "degBTDC", -64.0, 63.5,
"MAF - Mass Air Flow", "g/s", 0.0, 655.35,
"MAP - Manifold Abs. Presure", "kPa", 0.0, 255.0,
"VSS - Vehicle Speed Sensor", "km/h", 0.0, 255.0,
"ECT - Engine Coolant Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"IAT - Intake Air Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"PTO_STAT - PTO Status", "PTO", 0.0, 1.0,
"FUEL1_OL - Fuel Sys1 Open Loop", "OL", 0.0, 1.0,
"FUEL2_OL - Fuel Sys2 Open Loop", "OL", 0.0, 1.0,
"SHRTFT1 - Short Term Fuel Trim 1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT1 - Long Term Fuel Trim 1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT2 - Short Term Fuel Trim 2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT2 - Long Term Fuel Trim 2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT3 - Short Term Fuel Trim 3", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT3 - Long Term Fuel Trim 3", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT4 - Short Term Fuel Trim 4", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT4 - Long Term Fuel Trim 4", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"FRP - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 765.0,
"FRP_MED - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 5177.27,
"FRP_HIGH - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 655350.0,
"EQ_RAT - Commanded Equiv. Ratio", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"LOAD_ABS - Absolute Load Value", "%", 0.0, 802.75,
"EGR_PCT - Commanded EGR", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EGR_ERR - EGR Error", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"TP_R - Throttle Position(rel)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TP_B - Throttle Position B(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TP_C - Throttle Position C(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_D - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_E - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_F - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TAC_PCT - Commanded Throttle", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EVAP_PCT - Commanded Evap. Purge", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EVAP_VP - Evap. Vapor Pressure", "Pa", -8192.0, 8191.0,
"AIR_UPS - Secondary Air DNS", "UPS", 0.0, 1.0,
"AIR_DNS - Secondary Air DNS", "DNS", 0.0, 1.0,
"AIR_OFF - Secondary Air DNS", "OFF", 0.0, 1.0,
"FLI - Fuel Level Indicator", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"BARO - Barometric Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 255.0,
"AAT - Ambient Air Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"VPWR - Control Module Voltage", "Volts", 0.0, 65.535,
"MIL - Malfunction Indicator Lamp", "MIL", 0.0, 1.0,
"DTC_CNT - DTC Count", "DTCs", 0.0, 1023.0,
"MIL_DIST - Distance MIL active", "km", 0.0, 65535.0,
"MIL_TIME - Hours MIL active", "hours", 0.0, 1023.0,
"CLR_DIST - Distance MIL clear", "km", 0.0, 65535.0,
"WARM_UPS - Warm Ups MIL clear", "WUs", 0.0, 1023.0,
"RUNTM - Run Time", "mins", 0.0, 1023.0,
"O2S11 - O2 Sensor(NB) 1-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT11 - O2 Fuel Trim 1-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S12 - O2 Sensor(NB) 1-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT12 - O2 Fuel Trim 1-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S21 - O2 Sensor(NB) 2-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT21 - O2 Fuel Trim 2-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S22 - O2 Sensor(NB) 2-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT22 - O2 Fuel Trim 2-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S31 - O2 Sensor(NB) 3-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT31 - O2 Fuel Trim 3-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S32 - O2 Sensor(NB) 3-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT32 - O2 Fuel Trim 3-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S41 - O2 Sensor(NB) 4-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT41 - O2 Fuel Trim 4-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S42 - O2 Sensor(NB) 4-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT42 - O2 Fuel Trim 4-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"EQ_RAT11 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 1-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S11 - WideO2 Voltage 1-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT12 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 1-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S12 - WideO2 Voltage 1-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT21 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 2-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S21 - WideO2 Voltage 2-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
- 28 -
Name – Description Units Min. Max
"EQ_RAT22 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 2-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S22 - WideO2 Voltage 2-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT31 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 3-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S31 - WideO2 Voltage 3-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT32 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 3-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S32 - WideO2 Voltage 3-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT41 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 4-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S41 - WideO2 Voltage 4-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT42 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 4-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S42 - WideO2 Voltage 4-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"WBEQ_RAT11 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 1-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S11 - WB-O2 Voltage 1-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT12 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 1-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S12 - WB-O2 Voltage 1-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT21 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 2-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S21 - WB-O2 Voltage 2-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT22 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 2-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S22 - WB-O2 Voltage 2-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT31 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 3-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S31 - WB-O2 Voltage 3-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT32 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 3-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S32 - WB-O2 Voltage 3-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT41 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 4-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S41 - WB-O2 Voltage 4-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT42 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 4-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S42 - WB-O2 Voltage 4-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"CATEMP11 - Catalyst Temp 1-1", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP21 - Catalyst Temp 2-1", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP12 - Catalyst Temp 1-2", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP22 - Catalyst Temp 2-2", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,

To break it down, for the SRT-4 you'll be able to log rpm's, throttle position sensor (TPS), calculated load, overall timing advance, MAP pressure in kPa, vehicle speed, coolant temp, intake air temp (charge temp on the pipe before the throttle body), ambient air temp (at the air box inlet), short and long term fuel trims, barometric pressure, stock narrowband O2 voltage, and a few other emission parameters. It's still helpful and I'll probably pick one up just for the integration into LogWorks but it probably won't replace my scan tool for now.

I already shot off an email to their tech support to see if they plan to add enhanced manufacturer support in the future and if the current OT-1 will be upgradeable to support it. The way a scan tool works (including the OT-1) is that it sends a PID (parameter ID) request to the PCM which replies back with the requested sensor data/value. The government mandates all the generic PID's must be the same and supported by all auto manufacturers but also states the manufacturers can charge aftermarket scan tool makers for their enhanced PID lists. That's why the AutoEnginuity charges extra for their Chrysler support and why high-end scan tools cost a lot more than simple generic OBD-II scan tools. I have a feeling the Aeroforce scan gauge reverse engineered the few enhanced PID's to support knock which is why the gauge is as reasonable as it is, but I would expect Innovate to charge quite a bit more if they do buy in and support full manufacturer data in the future. Just something to think about for the early adopters. I'll post up what I hear back from them.

[ojcool]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackbird_R/T

They've got the user's manual posted at this link and as expected and what they had originally stated is that it only supports the "generic" OBD-II data mandated by the EPA. What that means is this will work just like any other generic scan tool and more significantly, it won't provide things like knock retard for those trying to tunes their cars. Below is a list of the supported parameters (not all of which are applicable to all cars):



To break it down, for the SRT-4 you'll be able to log rpm's, throttle position sensor (TPS), calculated load, overall timing advance, MAP pressure in kPa, vehicle speed, coolant temp, intake air temp (charge temp on the pipe before the throttle body), ambient air temp (at the air box inlet), short and long term fuel trims, barometric pressure, stock narrowband O2 voltage, and a few other emission parameters. It's still helpful and I'll probably pick one up just for the integration into LogWorks but it probably won't replace my scan tool for now.

I already shot off an email to their tech support to see if they plan to add enhanced manufacturer support in the future and if the current OT-1 will be upgradeable to support it. The way a scan tool works (including the OT-1) is that it sends a PID (parameter ID) request to the PCM which replies back with the requested sensor data/value. The government mandates all the generic PID's must be the same and supported by all auto manufacturers but also states the manufacturers can charge aftermarket scan tool makers for their enhanced PID lists. That's why the AutoEnginuity charges extra for their Chrysler support and why high-end scan tools cost a lot more than simple generic OBD-II scan tools. I have a feeling the Aeroforce scan gauge reverse engineered the few enhanced PID's to support knock which is why the gauge is as reasonable as it is, but I would expect Innovate to charge quite a bit more if they do buy in and support full manufacturer data in the future. Just something to think about for the early adopters. I'll post up what I hear back from them.

Well according to Innovate all the expanded stuff will be there as well, they claim you will be able to datalog knock. I could do it anyway with the SSI4 box but this is so damn convenient. Besides just being able to datalog Map is going to be very helpful in tuning with the SCT stuff. Plus total ignition advance. It's useful.

[blackbird_R/T]

It's definitely nice being able to integrate it into LogWork with the rest of my external inputs but they'll have to pay the manufacturers for the enhanced PID's such as knock or try to reverse engineer all of them. I'd love to be able to log knock and a few other enhanced parameters but even if they never add that support it would still be useful but won't replace my scan tool. What would be really nice for the SCT users is if they can get Live Link support working so end users don't have to keep buying addition hardware.

[ojcool]

But the other cool thing about the OT1 is that is will work with any OBDII car. It will be very useful around the shop.