I recently went to 2 different dyno days, at 2 different shops, 2 different dyno's types. And the results were equally disapointing. Dyno'd 233whp and 267 ft-lbs of torque on a Dyno Jet. And than another day dyno'd 237 whp with 278 ft-lbs. on a Dyno Dynamics. Mods are: 2.5 inch cold air intake, Turboback exhaust, and SCT reflash from Pwerks. I put down numbers a stock SRT shoulda made. Anyone have any ideas? Kinda makes me miss my Honda, I made horsepower by accident with my B series. Bought my car with less than 7,000 miles completly unmolested under the hood and basically still is. The car only has 26,000 on it now.
SCT Reflash
Turboback exhaust
Cold air intake
237whp/278ft-lbs Somethings wrong with this picture
I recently went to 2 different dyno days, at 2 different shops, 2 different dyno's types. And the results were equally disapointing. Dyno'd 233whp and 267 ft-lbs of torque on a Dyno Jet. And than another day dyno'd 237 whp with 278 ft-lbs. on a Dyno Dynamics. Mods are: 2.5 inch cold air intake, Turboback exhaust, and SCT reflash from Pwerks. I put down numbers a stock SRT shoulda made. Anyone have any ideas? Kinda makes me miss my Honda, I made horsepower by accident with my B series. Bought my car with less than 7,000 miles completly unmolested under the hood and basically still is. The car only has 26,000 on it now.
SCT Reflash
Turboback exhaust
Cold air intake
237whp/278ft-lbs Somethings wrong with this picture
Im asking this only becasue I just had my big wheel stage 3 SCT tuned on a dyno, Was it an e-mail tune from Pwerks??
If so, what did your timing look like? E-mail tunes are gennerally conservative so you dont blow your shit up. Also, from what Ive been hearing, SCT flashes avent been impressing too many people on the stock turbo with almost no mods. Just my 2 cents
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I highly suggest taking the trip up to Jannetty racing in Waterbury ,CT for a dyno tune.There a vendor here check them out. I'm not here to start anything thats for sure but the Pwerks "canned" tunes have been proven to be not all they are cracked up to be.
Turboback and intake? Those are great numbers, as for the reflash you are only gonna gain so much, but I think the problem is the tune they sent you must not have the proper increase in boost and the timing is super conservative...
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Im asking this only becasue I just had my big wheel stage 3 SCT tuned on a dyno, Was it an e-mail tune from Pwerks??
If so, what did your timing look like? E-mail tunes are gennerally conservative so you dont blow your shit up. Also, from what Ive been hearing, SCT flashes avent been impressing too many people on the stock turbo with almost no mods. Just my 2 cents
truth.
the problem is stock turbo guys are getting these things thinking their Gods-send.
but in reality, vendors are lowering timing to be more conservative. thus you're gunna lose power. for a big turbo, you can make that up w/ ease w/ boost. thats no issue. but for a small turbo, i jsut dont see much benefit of the SCT...
I wouldn't say there is nothing to be gained on a stock turbo. We have several cars running around with minimal mods through S2 style cars. When I say S2, I mean S2 MAP/TIP, injectors and WGA. The S2 cars are putting down just under 300hp, and most are pushing 340+ftlbs. These are numbers on an eddy current loading dyno, not a dynojet, so the numbers generally run low. But the fact is, that is what we are getting, and getting it consistently.
exactly i agree with the above statement..i made 236 and 295 tq on the stock wga at 15 lbs, boost leaks out my ass and just cutout(closed by the way), cold air, and intercooler. Now i later found out the plugs were off horrbily so i regapped them and will have a retune in about a month hopefully. My best answer...check for boost leaks and ask your tuner about timing and also what boost he set it to
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SCT Xcal 2 Tune, Greddy Type S BOV, JMB Hardpipes, Stock WGA 15 psi, Quickwhips FMIC, Needswings V5, JMB Cold Air, Progress Springs,
245hp/320tq w/exhaust closed, and leaks..more to come
13.6@106mph -3/30 Cecil County(before SCT)
RIP Steve Nightshade Lorenz and Maximillion. You guys will never be forgotten. Thanks for all you did for the srt community. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2204682/1
also might I add I dynoed on a dynojet with the eddy current (aka load on the car) turned on which will also read a tad lower as stated already..so your there man just might need some tweaking
the problem is stock turbo guys are getting these things thinking their Gods-send.
but in reality, vendors are lowering timing to be more conservative. thus you're gunna lose power. for a big turbo, you can make that up w/ ease w/ boost. thats no issue. but for a small turbo, i jsut dont see much benefit of the SCT...
I didn't get the Xcal thinking that it was going to make a million horsepower. This isn't my first Turbo car. But SCT states that on a Bone stock SRT they made with there reflash somewhere around 250 whp/ and 300 plus of torque. I have a CAI and a full Turboback exhaust and Dyno'd less than them?? I have seen soo many cases where stock SRT's are making close to the power I did modded. Even read it in magizines that they should be making somewhere between 220/235whp stock. and the first 2 runs I was in the 220s. I just posted my best here.
My friend Dyno'd his car the same day. He has basically the same stuff. Turboback exhaust, Short ram intake and instead of the reflash he's running a AGP wga set to 19lbs, and a stage 1 ecu (which is the same as a reflash, both turns up boost). Ecu just to keep from overboost. And he dyno'd 273whp.
yea but one thing that i am learning the hard way we are on stock pcm controlled boost, meaning the boost will spike up but not hold worth a shit... so i will def let u know when i get retuned how i make out bc im in the same boat...wanted 260, expected 250 got 236... but boost leaks and non gapped plugs def are an issue for me so we shall see what happens! gluck man
yea but one thing that i am learning the hard way we are on stock pcm controlled boost, meaning the boost will spike up but not hold worth a shit... so i will def let u know when i get retuned how i make out bc im in the same boat...wanted 260, expected 250 got 236... but boost leaks and non gapped plugs def are an issue for me so we shall see what happens! gluck man
So are you planning on changing your WGA before you go back?
I also wanted to add that my torque and horse power curve is all over the place. HP swoops up and down all the way up to redline
I wouldn't say there is nothing to be gained on a stock turbo. We have several cars running around with minimal mods through S2 style cars. When I say S2, I mean S2 MAP/TIP, injectors and WGA. The S2 cars are putting down just under 300hp, and most are pushing 340+ftlbs. These are numbers on an eddy current loading dyno, not a dynojet, so the numbers generally run low. But the fact is, that is what we are getting, and getting it consistently.
I recommend using the stage 2 wastgate and 3 bar sensors. I remember when you tuned my car a few before me was a stock srt4 with 3"downpipe and turboback exhaust and stage 2 wastegate and put down 270 something hp. I believe on the stock turbo that the stage 2 wastegate is best and getting it tuned by someone who knows.
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320hp & 343tq SCT tuned By NEMIRO
3 Bar Map and Tip here. "Stage 2 tuning" SCT... My power and mods are in my signature. That was on a dynojet SAE corrected. Uncorrected was 325 and 355 I believe.
I have also found that tuning on the Stage 2 WGA seems to work out really well. Drivability and power is all there.
I recently went to 2 different dyno days, at 2 different shops, 2 different dyno's types. And the results were equally disapointing. Dyno'd 233whp and 267 ft-lbs of torque on a Dyno Jet. And than another day dyno'd 237 whp with 278 ft-lbs. on a Dyno Dynamics. Mods are: 2.5 inch cold air intake, Turboback exhaust, and SCT reflash from Pwerks. I put down numbers a stock SRT shoulda made. Anyone have any ideas? Kinda makes me miss my Honda, I made horsepower by accident with my B series. Bought my car with less than 7,000 miles completly unmolested under the hood and basically still is. The car only has 26,000 on it now.
SCT Reflash
Turboback exhaust
Cold air intake
237whp/278ft-lbs Somethings wrong with this picture
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