I only have access to the stg 2 tune but in a few days here I'll be strapping on my agp 50. I was hoping to get maybe a screen shot or something of a few stg 3 tables as I'd like to input the numbers and use them as starting points for my 50 tuning.
I'm looking for
WOT spark
Desired Torque
Wastegate Duty Cycle
FA above stoic(if it's any dif than the stg 2)
and anything else any one feels would be better starting values for my 50 than whats in the stg 2 file.
You planning on trying to run on pcm controlled boost? If not, the only thing that you need is the WOT spark table, which youre gonna be retuning anyways. I would stick with the stage 2 WOT timing to start off. Leave the Power Enrichment above stoich at stage 2 as well and see how it goes first, if you dont plan to change your VE table, then the values in the stage 2 PE table will work ok to start with.
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Last edited by 04blusrt_4 : 10-14-2009 at 03:33 PM.
You planning on trying to run on pcm controlled boost? If not, the only thing that you need is the WOT spark table, which youre gonna be retuning anyways. I would stick with the stage 2 WOT timing to start off. Leave the Power Enrichment above stoich at stage 2 as well and see how it goes first, if you dont plan to change your VE table, then the values in the stage 2 PE table will work ok to start with.
Hmm, good to know. Yes, I will be on pcm controlled boost still. I don't want to give up boost by gear.
Hmm, good to know. Yes, I will be on pcm controlled boost still. I don't want to give up boost by gear.
Thats gonna take A LOT of work to get it to boost correctly. Good luck stay with it and you shall be rewarded.
Hint: read a bit on the N2MB vendor section about their boost box, if you look hard enough you can get an idea of the duty cycles they are using on big turbos to get the boost psi desired, it will lead you on the right path
Thats gonna take A LOT of work to get it to boost correctly. Good luck stay with it and you shall be rewarded.
Hint: read a bit on the N2MB vendor section about their boost box, if you look hard enough you can get an idea of the duty cycles they are using on big turbos to get the boost psi desired, it will lead you on the right path
I know all about duty cycle, the prp was my next step after sevral months of DTEC fc/bc as my tuning device. I actually only went with the sct vice a dsport because of the ability to keep my boost by gear, and do my tuning myself! I know dsport can do it, but I believe only if you have the license rights, or get canned tunes, or shop tuned.
I'll get it to work :-] I read a while back some one hooked up there d44 to a stg 3 pcm with toys and it worked very well.. ~23psi perfectly. That's what I'm aiming for, so if I have as much luck it wont take toooo much fine tuning.
I know all about duty cycle, the prp was my next step after sevral months of DTEC fc/bc as my tuning device. I actually only went with the sct vice a dsport because of the ability to keep my boost by gear, and do my tuning myself! I know dsport can do it, but I believe only if you have the license rights, or get canned tunes, or shop tuned.
I'll get it to work :-] I read a while back some one hooked up there d44 to a stg 3 pcm with toys and it worked very well.. ~23psi perfectly. That's what I'm aiming for, so if I have as much luck it wont take toooo much fine tuning.
Well I agree, but the problem becomes all around spool up, not holding boost. A d44 on a 9psi wga spring is very similar to a 39lb stage 3 on a 8psi wga spring which is what the stage 3 pcm is calibrated for, instant spool, part throttle boost. The 50T, not even close. Needs very little duty cycle AT ALL until after 3300rpms to get a good spool, but once it does spool youve gotta jack up the duty cycle because the external gate is much more efficient at holding boost and the turbo will have plenty of CFM to hold what you want.
I tried it a little with my car and didnt have much luck and quickly abandoned the idea. 30psi spikes on my D55 was doing no good for my stock bottom end.
Few things to note, DC is 0%-->full boost hitting the wga and 100% means no boost is hitting the wga, so aim low and bring them up slowly to avoid overboosting. Also, you should really have a way to log your dutycycle so that once you see the psi youre aiming for, you can look at the rpm and dutycyle it occurred at, and start bring up the rest of the dutycycle table to nearly the same values. I would also say you want to lower your desired torque some, I tried by 20% to start, I have been told you need to lower it more. Desired torque will only effect the boost once the dutycycle is within the adaptive ranges. So if you are asking for 500nm of torque, and tell the pcm to run a max of 77% dutycycle, with max and min adaptive % dutycycle learning say at 20%, the pcm needs to see 500nm of torque at anywhere from 57 to 97% dutycycle, otherwise you will just be seeing retarded boost spikes.
Last edited by 04blusrt_4 : 10-14-2009 at 07:46 PM.
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ISO A few stg 3 tables.
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