Ditch the granatelli wires, solid cores FTL. We had a car with them at fwd and it blew the computer for the dyno, it grounded out, and shut the whole run off, we couldnt figure out why, then nemiro spotted the wires, it was grounding out the whole system around like 2500 rpms.
Sorry to tell you, but a solid core wire on ANY computer controlled car is begging for problems. I really can't believe ANY plug wire manufacturer would make solid core wires for a modern EFI car. Yes, there are advantages to them - on a carb'd car running points ignition.
im not saying now... if i recall... back in the day... like in the early days of the srt4, i could of swarn there was a little issue with making power past 6k with ems.
i may be wrong... probably.
i just thought there was... nvm then
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There are other tables besides WOT Spark that are affecting you. That's all I can say.
is there anyway you can tell me what you mean? would you know what is up with 6k+ droping badly?
Quote: Originally Posted by nemiro
Sorry to tell you, but a solid core wire on ANY computer controlled car is begging for problems. I really can't believe ANY plug wire manufacturer would make solid core wires for a modern EFI car. Yes, there are advantages to them - on a carb'd car running points ignition.
on the 15th im going to order a new set of plugs and wires... so we will see what happens then.. anything else other wise?
You are so far off base, I don't know where to begin. You have never tuned one of these cars, so why do you insist on showing this forum your lack of expertise in this area.
p.s.- Yes, I just finished a long day, and am a bit cranky.
wow, what a dick face.
i haven't fooled with the sct software for the SRT. i do have some time on advantage with a lightning and a couple LS1 cars. i was just trying to help find a solution, why do you have to come out and be such a dick?
Because you keep spouting off in this forum like you actually know how to tune these cars, and you don't. That's why. I get really sick of people spreading bad info on all of these forums, bringing down the signal to noise ratio. People read posts like yours, and think the SCT is or is not capable of certain things, and when they ask, you respond as if you were an authority. That makes the jobs of real tuners more difficult when they have to answer the same questions over and over, because, "they read this post on the forums...." If you want to get down to it, it costs me time, and time is money. I am picking on you, but you are far from the only one doing it. Your response was also a bit over-reactionary, and shows your maturity level, too. Scoff not at my vile remarks, either.
is there anyway you can tell me what you mean? would you know what is up with 6k+ droping badly?
There are a lot of spark tables, not just WOT spark that need attention. You are also fighting a few dynamics of this engine, including head flow, cam profiles (even with big cams), and of course the lifter over-extension issue. The DCR oil mod helps, but does not eliminate it.
on the 15th im going to order a new set of plugs and wires... so we will see what happens then.. anything else other wise?
I HIGHLY recommend Magnecor wires. Look into some Iridium plugs, 2 steps colder (if you haven't already).
Because you keep spouting off in this forum like you actually know how to tune these cars, and you don't. That's why. I get really sick of people spreading bad info on all of these forums, bringing down the signal to noise ratio. People read posts like yours, and think the SCT is or is not capable of certain things, and when they ask, you respond as if you were an authority. That makes the jobs of real tuners more difficult when they have to answer the same questions over and over, because, "they read this post on the forums...." If you want to get down to it, it costs me time, and time is money. I am picking on you, but you are far from the only one doing it. Your response was also a bit over-reactionary, and shows your maturity level, too. Scoff not at my vile remarks, either.
NGK 2 steps colder : LTR7IX-11
sparkplugs.com is a supporting vendor and typically has these on sale. about 8 bucks a plug retail. and nemiro, i don't know what in particular you're talking about, as far as me saying the software can or cannot do something. the only things i say the software can do are things i've personally seen changed in advantage. as far as some of the other stuff, before i'd seen it, my posts were mostly conjecture, you know, a guess. like, "the sct should be able to boost by gear, there's a provision for it in the toys pcm" that's not saying i know how to modify it to perform said action, merely expressing my personal view that with the data that's availible to me, i see no reason for this to be impossible.
....my posts were mostly conjecture, you know, a guess. like, "the sct should be able to boost by gear, there's a provision for it in the toys pcm" that's not saying i know how to modify it to perform said action, merely expressing my personal view that with the data that's availible to me, i see no reason for this to be impossible.
Neil has a point, If you're not sure about something, but have an educated guess, then say it like that.
Instead of: "if they didn't turn adaptive learning off in the pcm, it's trying to revert programming back to stock. could be part of the problem."
you should have said:
"maybe it has something to do with adaptive learning in the pcm, it's trying to revert programming back to stock. could be part of the problem. I really don't know,,just a thought."
It would benefit everyone, wannasupra, even yourself, if you didn't use such an absolute tone. Most kids, who don't know you, might think you know what you are talking about. Thats what got Neil all fired up. Just use more "maybe", "could be", "might", "possibly", "I think",,,
I try to always leave the posibilty that I could be wrong,, just look at my first few posts in this section. Over-confidence is a halmark of a closed mind.
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don't mean to come off as over confident, i've gotten used to speaking in a more absolute tone since i took business and marketing classes back in high school. we did a study on personality tests used for hiring. you know, the kind that give you five levels of response...
very yes
yes
dunno
no
very no
(obviously those aren't the responses, but you get the idea)
anyway, the point they tried to get across to us wasn't whether the response was positive or negative, the point was to use the response time vs the response, assigned on some kind of point system. basically, far positive or far negative were more likely to result in a hire, as well as responses that took less time to record. so answer fast, and be sure of yourself.
anyway, it wasn't my intent to mislead. that being said, if the adaptive learning isn't disabled, the pcm will try to revert to stock.
anyway, it wasn't my intent to mislead. that being said, if the adaptive learning isn't disabled, the pcm will try to revert to stock.
No, it won't. This is why I was aggravated with your response, even with your highly educated high school negotiation and hiring confidence sprinkled in. Tell me this, genius, if the stock parameters for boost control, spark and fuel are no longer in a PCM, how in the world will adaptive memory 'revert' a car back to stock settings? Please, enlighten me.
p.s.- Adolescent remarks and pics will only serve to drive my point home.
No, it won't. This is why I was aggravated with your response, even with your highly educated high school negotiation and hiring confidence sprinkled in. Tell me this, genius, if the stock parameters for boost control, spark and fuel are no longer in a PCM, how in the world will adaptive memory 'revert' a car back to stock settings? Please, enlighten me.
p.s.- Adolescent remarks and pics will only serve to drive my point home.
got my plugs.. ngk, 2 range colder.
will order the wires soon.
sooo any other ideas. is it a possibility of valves floating? what that happen to my powerband if they were floating?
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