hey guys i bought the sct pro racer package about 5 months ago and was going to get my car tuned with it...needless to say i ran into a few problems that didnt allow me to get the time in for the car to be tuned...
when i first bought it i got it unlocked to my pcm but i cant get the car tuned as of right now...
my question is...am i still able to sell it or post it for sale on the forums? my tuner is also very experienced with aem so i figured while i get my things together i should just sell this to someone and save some money for now...any thoughts?
I don't see why you could not sell it but you may have to switch PCM's with the person. I think SCT is a far superior product than the AEM standalone. Thats just my opinion though.
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anyone know the assrape fee? lol!!...im hearing alot of good things about sct for sure but nobody in my area is familiar with it and my guy is having trouble figuring it out...he is really well known for tuning aem and he has done some amazing work from what ive seen so far, just not so much luck with sct thats all...i would definately use sct if he can do it which is is why i went with sct in the first place...ill keep my fingers crossed and hope he can figure it out within the next day or two, if he cant i really need another tuning option for sure!
If he has prior PCM tuning experience he should not be having that much trouble. It's really not much different than any other PCM reflash platform. If his experience is only with stand alones than he is in for a surprise. Reflashing a factory PCM is nothing like tuning with a stand alone. For a couple hundred dollars I would be willing to walk him through it on the phone but I'm not providing free SCT support to a shop that is charging you for their time. That isn't the point of this forum.
I have noticed that recently their have been allot of vendors coming into this forum looking for free help with SCT, if they intend to charge people to tune their cars they should already know what they are doing. There is no other reason for a "tuning shop" to be in this forum OTHER than to be trolling for free knowledge. Knowledge that they have every intention of turning around and selling to SRT owners for a profit. This has been covered over and over again but I will say it one more time. If you are considering using a tuner and he does not know how the software works, you need to find another tuner. Stop enabling these people by giving them money. If they cannot control your boost with the PCM, they don't know enough about SCT to be charging money for their tuning services. If they can only tune stand alones, they don't know enough about engine management to charge for their services. If your tuner is asking you to "see what you can find out" he does not know enough about engine management to charge for his services. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood today.
Please to the regulars on this forum, please do not post proprietary information willy nilly to anyone who asks. If they don't spend enough time on the forum for you to know their name, they should not be offering up information that came from hours of work. Please do not offer to sell tunes complied from information that was gleaned from my posts. If you got the information somewhere else, use your best judgement.
Just to be clear their are some people who offer tuning services who DO post in threads. I of course am not including you in this rant. You know who you are.
Lets not empower people who have not offered any information by allowing them to rape this forum of information for their own personal gain.
I am not trying to signal out the starter of this thread, this just happens to be where I ended up posting this.
hmmmm, i totally appreciate your input on your situation and you have every right to vent as i dont mind at all...i pretty much tried my best to not knock sct in any way because im not into bashing other companies at all but.....i do have to say that this software was absolutely the biggest nightmare ever...my tuner has built some of the fastest cars in Canada and knows everything there is to know to properly tune a car...if sct didnt release thier software too early and maybe do a little r&d before hand then maybe we might have not had such a hard time getting the device to work...im not a tuner by any means so i personally cant explain exactly what was wrong but it took my tuner literally hours with sct on the phone trying to figure out what updating software to download because sct was still figuring out all the bugs when it first came out...needless to say sct overall is definately a good setup and once we get it all going it should be fine..since my tuner has a ton of experience with aem i figured it might be better to sell the sct to someone that likes it and is very familiar with it and get the aem for my tuner and everyone will be happy in the end....at the end of all this i know that previous post wasnt directed to me because im the farthest thing from knowing anything at all about tuning at all.ask me about bodybuilding or supplements and i know everything there is to need to know about the body and how it functions. im just one of those guys that pretty much pays a guy to make my car faster and thats it, i dont care how or why i just pay money and get my car back faster than it was before, that being said im not trolling and trying to get free information at all which is why i asked if its possible to sell my sct and move on to other things...
From the reading I have done the stock computer (or staged ones) have the ability to learn and adapt to your tune to correct minor inperfections which make it safer to use. The AEM is pretty much set it and that's where it stays so there is less room for error. To me, the learning abilities of the stock computer seem like a positive trade-off to the AEM. Others might think differently however...
lol it ok this thread has been totally derailed already...all i really asked is if i can sell my sct pro racer package...in the end different strokes for different folks as far as which tuning software is better..
Not to derail this thread but I see you throwing this around a lot. What exactly does the ngc3 pcm do that is far superior to the AEM?
Well, there is a reason they don't put AEM PCM's in cars from the factory. The reason people have problems with the SCT software is there are easily 100 tables in it. Every one of those tables is involved with some aspect of engine management. Every single one alters something to adapt to changes in the environment. Whether it is coolant temperature, air temperature, barometric pressure, sensor feedback, driver input. What sets SCT apart is you are using the PCM to control the engine in the way that everything was engineered to work. AEM would be the equivalent of tuning the car with a carburator. Even though it is still fuel injected it is a simplified PCM. While AEM is a very solid workable engine platform it is not anywhere near as sophisticated as a factory PCM. It's similar to Accel DFI, or any of the other stand alone fuel injection controllers.
Does Mopar use an AEM stand alone to manage their drag cars?
I'm not knocking AEM, it's a solid option for people who don't want to invest the time in learning SCT. However, a properly tuned SCT car will outperform a stand alone tuned car.
the ngc can also compensate for changes in temperature, gas grade, altitude, and a myriad of other items. the aem has the advantage if it's used for a pure race car. you can control meth, 2 sets of fuel injectors (8 total for a 4 cyl), nitrous, and tons of peripherals.
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Well, there is a reason they don't put AEM PCM's in cars from the factory. The reason people have problems with the SCT software is there are easily 100 tables in it. Every one of those tables is involved with some aspect of engine management. Every single one alters something to adapt to changes in the environment. Whether it is coolant temperature, air temperature, barometric pressure, sensor feedback, driver input. What sets SCT apart is you are using the PCM to control the engine in the way that everything was engineered to work. AEM would be the equivalent of tuning the car with a carburator. Even though it is still fuel injected it is a simplified PCM. While AEM is a very solid workable engine platform it is not anywhere near as sophisticated as a factory PCM. It's similar to Accel DFI, or any of the other stand alone fuel injection controllers.
Does Mopar use an AEM stand alone to manage their drag cars?
I'm not knocking AEM, it's a solid option for people who don't want to invest the time in learning SCT. However, a properly tuned SCT car will outperform a stand alone tuned car.
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