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Old 05-10-2008, 02:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 07,08 PT Turbo CAN or J1850????

I can't find any of this onfo.

Are the PT turbos STILL use J1850 vpw protocal or did they get switched to CAN like every other Chrysler????

I really like the speed of CAN over the old J1850.
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The PT's switched to CAN for '06. They now utilize an NGC-4 controller.
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Quote: Originally Posted by blackbird_R/T View Post
The PT's switched to CAN for '06. They now utilize an NGC-4 controller.

Any thoughts about retrofitting one on a SRT??

I was logging with my OT-1, and the 04 S1 it can get kinda a laggy with more than 4-5 parameters streaming.
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Thoughts? It would be cheaper and easier to invest in a good aftermarket (high end) scan tool or a used DRB-III. The OT-1 and most lower end scan tools that provide generic-only OBD-II data ride on the slower J1850 bus and as you've seen are limited on bandwidth, but you can pull all those parameters in addition to all the manufacturer-specific parameters over the SCI bus with higher end scan tools which can log much faster.

As to swapping to CAN there's a lot of stuff besides just the powertrain controller that rides on the current PCI bus in the Neon. The SKIS (Sentry Key), instrument cluster, and even the radio just to name a few. In addition to swapping all those components and since this is in the SCT section, you'd also have to verify they'll support the newer PT turbo NGC-4 computer you're looking to use. Theoretically possible? Maybe, but it's going to be an expensive and complex nightmare. If you're mostly interested in data logging and have an XCal2 we can hope SCT gets around to getting that support finalized. It will ride the faster SCI bus and you shouldn't have any bandwidth or logging speed issues you have like on the OT-1. While that SCT Live Link logging would be great it would be even better if they offered a LogWorks plug-in like some of the other aftermarket tuning options.
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I have access to a DRB-III, I just need a way to record the data(w/ integrated A/F) more easily. I was figuring if a 06-08 turbo ecu showed up cheap on ebay (saw one the other day go for $100) I'd explore the possibility.

Yeah, its probably not worth the trouble. I forgot about the communication to other vehical systems.
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Quote: Originally Posted by blackbird_R/T View Post
T While that SCT Live Link logging would be great it would be even better if they offered a LogWorks plug-in like some of the other aftermarket tuning options.

Diablo Predator has a Logworks plugin for the SRT-8s(CAN), this is what kinda got me thinking about it.
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