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Old 07-05-2009, 05:59 PM   #121 (permalink)
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thats on my list
i see the agp wga as more of a repair than a mod lol
so thats first
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I think you should get a scan gauge before raising the boost much. If the block and head are shaved then your compression will be higher, which will be more prone to knock/detonate. You need a way to see what it's doing... Or you could end up in the same situation as me.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:29 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I think you should get a scan gauge before raising the boost much. If the block and head are shaved then your compression will be higher, which will be more prone to knock/detonate. You need a way to see what it's doing... Or you could end up in the same situation as me.

scan guage you mean like a wideband?
i got one of those
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:55 AM   #124 (permalink)
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No this is what hes talking about

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Old 07-06-2009, 07:11 PM   #125 (permalink)
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well i guess the dsp can also monitor all the same things as the scan gauge right? if so, yeah that's def. the route to go.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:58 AM   #127 (permalink)
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If you are going the DSP route, you will need a custom tune with an aftermarket WGA.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:53 PM   #128 (permalink)
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^ no you dont i have a decent amout of bolt-ons and am running it just fine you just have to make sure you set the aftermarket wga to spike 15lbs so that when the dsp takes over its now spiking 20 lbs
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^ no you dont i have a decent amout of bolt-ons and am running it just fine you just have to make sure you set the aftermarket wga to spike 15lbs so that when the dsp takes over its now spiking 20 lbs

I was running a DPS, with Stage1 and Stage 2 WGA as my only performance mods, and the Predator had my car boosting well over 20 PSI...the Boost gauge was reading almost straight down. From browsing the DS forum, my basic understanding was that the Predator was based on stock WGA, and any aftermarket WGA was going to need a custom tune, due to the different spring tensions...
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Quote: Originally Posted by loxmith View Post
I was running a DPS, with Stage1 and Stage 2 WGA as my only performance mods, and the Predator had my car boosting well over 20 PSI...the Boost gauge was reading almost straight down. From browsing the DS forum, my basic understanding was that the Predator was based on stock WGA, and any aftermarket WGA was going to need a custom tune, due to the different spring tensions...

just go big turbo and forget about all that....
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Quote: Originally Posted by loxmith View Post
I was running a DPS, with Stage1 and Stage 2 WGA as my only performance mods, and the Predator had my car boosting well over 20 PSI...the Boost gauge was reading almost straight down. From browsing the DS forum, my basic understanding was that the Predator was based on stock WGA, and any aftermarket WGA was going to need a custom tune, due to the different spring tensions...


you dont need a custum tune to allow for a different spring. you just need to set the spring so its a little closer to stock. why would u need a custum tune to use a tuning device? kinda defeats the purpose.
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and even if you wanted to run higher boost most tuners have tunes set up for all different kinds of set-ups.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:08 AM   #134 (permalink)
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damn. id be down for the meet and eat tonight
its just i prob wont get by car back till the end of the week
prob be there next week
whose knows might show up tonight in my lil bros civic or something if its still going on
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you dont need a custum tune to allow for a different spring. you just need to set the spring so its a little closer to stock. why would u need a custum tune to use a tuning device? kinda defeats the purpose.

But it also defeats the purpose of having an upgraded/aftermarket WGA, IMO. If you have to set your aftermarket WGA to stock levels, you might as well just keep the stock WGA.


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and even if you wanted to run higher boost most tuners have tunes set up for all different kinds of set-ups.

Based on what I read on their forum, the DSP is designed to work with a stock WGA. A lot of people complained about the boost being to high with an aftermarket WGA, and there response generally was to recommend a custom tune. People recommended the DSP after the poster mentioned upgrading his WGA. I'm just repeating my experience with the Predator and an aftermarket WGA. Don't get me wrong, iF I didn't already have Stage1/2 WGA combo, I'd get a predator. But I am not interested in getting a custom tune, or turning my WGA down, just so I can have a predator, again.

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