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Old 04-07-2008, 09:01 PM   #346 (permalink)
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X2 to much fuel is bad....11.5 is on the line of good/conservative ....you want balls to the wall safe then tune or a MAX of 12.1 with meth afr, imo...

End of story: EMS>Flash>Piggy back.....cant get any easier than that. Piggyback is a great SAFE way to see how small adjustments can affect the cars performance. Anyone can learn how to work one and see gains. Yet you will never touch the max performance... Level of difficulty - Albert safe to moderate

Flash is better but not best. Out the box it is great but what happens when your at the track and you just dumped 6gallons of C16 in your SRT to find out your "balls to the wall race tune" has a AFR of 11.1 max???? Great so lets add it up:
6 gallons @ 7 bucks or so = 42
10 to get in
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Relising your flash wasnt enough and you cant adjust it.....priceless

Now this is the worst case scenario, after your shits dialed in then you should be good, for a season. Remember one day we go from 80, to the next at 65, to the next week raining everyday....nothing is guarentee. Level of diffculty - Albert not safe to tune, Albert not safe to adjust.

EMS, hands down the best. Hands down over priced beyond all. Worth it, yes if you have the correct mods. Stock turbo guys need to research and open there fucking eyes, stay the fuck away from here. It kills me everytime tex posts in the ems section telling a stock turbo guy to get this, enjoy your stock driveability...Now, everything can be adjusted, by your self, on the street, can data log. Can 2 step. Can adjust timing. Can control nitrous. Can control meth inject. Can have AS MANY TUNES AS YOU WANT. Can TRADE tunes. Can make money tuning other guys systems if you know how. Hands down best. Level of dificulty - Albert, dont even look at the fucking box...bad albert
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:38 PM   #347 (permalink)
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X2 to much fuel is bad....11.5 is on the line of good/conservative ....you want balls to the wall safe then tune or a MAX of 12.1 with meth afr, imo...

End of story: EMS>Flash>Piggy back.....cant get any easier than that. Piggyback is a great SAFE way to see how small adjustments can affect the cars performance. Anyone can learn how to work one and see gains. Yet you will never touch the max performance... Level of difficulty - Albert safe to moderate
Flash is better but not best. Out the box it is great but what happens when your at the track and you just dumped 6gallons of C16 in your SRT to find out your "balls to the wall race tune" has a AFR of 11.1 max???? Great so lets add it up:
6 gallons @ 7 bucks or so = 42
10 to get in
10 to race
Relising your flash wasnt enough and you cant adjust it.....priceless

Now this is the worst case scenario, after your shits dialed in then you should be good, for a season. Remember one day we go from 80, to the next at 65, to the next week raining everyday....nothing is guarentee. Level of diffculty - Albert not safe to tune, Albert not safe to adjust.

EMS, hands down the best. Hands down over priced beyond all. Worth it, yes if you have the correct mods. Stock turbo guys need to research and open there fucking eyes, stay the fuck away from here. It kills me everytime tex posts in the ems section telling a stock turbo guy to get this, enjoy your stock driveability...Now, everything can be adjusted, by your self, on the street, can data log. Can 2 step. Can adjust timing. Can control nitrous. Can control meth inject. Can have AS MANY TUNES AS YOU WANT. Can TRADE tunes. Can make money tuning other guys systems if you know how. Hands down best. Level of dificulty - Albert, dont even look at the fucking box...bad albert



yea, and i do plan on upgrading to the SCT Pro Racer Package sometime very soon, so the AGP flashes will be a good way to start off, but to get that custom on-the-fly tune at the track, i will use that instead. think of the flash tunes as a custom 'Staged' PCM for your specific setup. it acts stock, looks stock, and for all intensive purposes, IS stock... until you put your foot in the pedal. does everything the stock PCM is supposed to do with ALOT more fuel and timing. oh, and i think that they can program in a functional 2-step as well. ill have to email kevin and see what cool stuff they have been able to do with the stock PCM functions and features...
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:16 AM   #348 (permalink)
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its tuesday!
i wana see that video of dave vs cobra

and not
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:57 AM   #349 (permalink)
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its tuesday!
i wana see that video of dave vs cobra

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X2 on this video. Wish there was video of me and Eddie on 295 a while back. Oh well.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:47 AM   #350 (permalink)
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yeah when i go to the track i try to fine tune my car to 12.5 across the board (keep in mind i am running water/meth so i can tune that agressive). but my air fuel drops occasionally to a 12.1-12.3ish so for this saturday i am going to try to fine tune on the trip up to a 12.5 when i get closer to the track. we shall see.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:58 AM   #351 (permalink)
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yeah when i go to the track i try to fine tune my car to 12.5 across the board (keep in mind i am running water/meth so i can tune that agressive). but my air fuel drops occasionally to a 12.1-12.3ish so for this saturday i am going to try to fine tune on the trip up to a 12.5 when i get closer to the track. we shall see.

i maybe bringing a trailer just in case something goes wrong i.e half shaft
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X2 to much fuel is bad....11.5 is on the line of good/conservative ....you want balls to the wall safe then tune or a MAX of 12.1 with meth afr, imo...

End of story: EMS>Flash>Piggy back.....cant get any easier than that. Piggyback is a great SAFE way to see how small adjustments can affect the cars performance. Anyone can learn how to work one and see gains. Yet you will never touch the max performance... Level of difficulty - Albert safe to moderate

Flash is better but not best. Out the box it is great but what happens when your at the track and you just dumped 6gallons of C16 in your SRT to find out your "balls to the wall race tune" has a AFR of 11.1 max???? Great so lets add it up:
6 gallons @ 7 bucks or so = 42
10 to get in
10 to race
Relising your flash wasnt enough and you cant adjust it.....priceless

Now this is the worst case scenario, after your shits dialed in then you should be good, for a season. Remember one day we go from 80, to the next at 65, to the next week raining everyday....nothing is guarentee. Level of diffculty - Albert not safe to tune, Albert not safe to adjust.

EMS, hands down the best. Hands down over priced beyond all. Worth it, yes if you have the correct mods. Stock turbo guys need to research and open there fucking eyes, stay the fuck away from here. It kills me everytime tex posts in the ems section telling a stock turbo guy to get this, enjoy your stock driveability...Now, everything can be adjusted, by your self, on the street, can data log. Can 2 step. Can adjust timing. Can control nitrous. Can control meth inject. Can have AS MANY TUNES AS YOU WANT. Can TRADE tunes. Can make money tuning other guys systems if you know how. Hands down best. Level of dificulty - Albert, dont even look at the fucking box...bad albert

i wish it was 7 a gallon dont buy at fayetteville track 9 bucks a gallon(112)
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i maybe bringing a trailer just in case something goes wrong i.e half shaft

yeah bring it in case i break my shit as well
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:24 AM   #354 (permalink)
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^^there is 110 leaded for 6.50 or so down pamalee
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are you going to the rock this weekend ? i am so meet me at my house and pick them up and we will ride down there.

O yeah as for the tuning. the evo is a whole different beast then the srt. the pcm on a srt works way different then on the evo ecu. o and one more thing this is my preference and alot of tuning shops as far as air/fuel 11.8 to 12.5 is safe. high 10's is sometimes to much fuel so you will start pulling timing. my .02 cents. But anyways link up with me so i can get the tires to you bro.

when i was talking 10.8-11.0 afr i was obviously talking about 93 PUMP GAS. my evo is running 11.2-11.3 afr on PUMP GAS@24psi. now, race gas i run around 12.1-12.2 afr with 114 oct RACE GAS@28psi. for some odd reason my car LOVES 114 the best. not c16,112,110........just 114oct of course the big advantage to flashing software is being able to make more accurate adjustments for weather/track conditions REAL TIME.

will steve's sct maps be spot on everytime at the track without making real time adjustments at the track? No. BUT, with the good driver mod, his times should always be within a consistent time range. hopefully that will be in the 11.2-11.4's in the 1/4. the only way his times should be altered significantly is due to some sorta mechanical reason such as a pesky boost leak, bad plug, or just piss poor driving

regardless, i'll be glad to meet you all when i'm done with this project and when the evo is good to go sometime in june
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^^there is 110 leaded for 6.50 or so down pamalee

yup, at the Citgo or whatever gas station it is, on the corner of Country Club (known also as Pamalee and Skibo) and Rosehill Rd across from the Food Lion. it is right before you get to Ramsey St.
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when i was talking 10.8-11.0 afr i was obviously talking about 93 PUMP GAS. my evo is running 11.2-11.3 afr on PUMP GAS@24psi. now, race gas i run around 12.1-12.2 afr with 114 oct RACE GAS@28psi. for some odd reason my car LOVES 114 the best. not c16,112,110........just 114oct of course the big advantage to flashing software is being able to make more accurate adjustments for weather/track conditions REAL TIME.

will steve's sct maps be spot on everytime at the track without making real time adjustments at the track? No. BUT, with the good driver mod, his times should always be within a consistent time range. hopefully that will be in the 11.2-11.4's in the 1/4. the only way his times should be altered significantly is due to some sorta mechanical reason such as a pesky boost leak, bad plug, or just piss poor driving

regardless, i'll be glad to meet you all when i'm done with this project and when the evo is good to go sometime in june

yea yea, matt. laugh it up. speaking of 'piss poor' i got about 4 bottles of 'piss' that im about ready to 'poor' on you if u keep it up.
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yup, at the Citgo or whatever gas station it is, on the corner of Country Club (known also as Pamalee and Skibo) and Rosehill Rd across from the Food Lion. it is right before you get to Ramsey St.

the one that EVERYONE forgets about it the citgo on owen dr. right across from south beach/palamino. they have 110 race gas also and its right on the way to the track of course, i don't use that garbage 110 oct now but i used to all the time with the old srt-4 seeing how i use to live 2 miles from it.
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yea yea, matt. laugh it up. speaking of 'piss poor' i got about 4 bottles of 'piss' that im about ready to 'poor' on you if u keep it up.

nice. nothing like a fabulous golden shower
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the one that EVERYONE forgets about it the citgo on owen dr. right across from south beach/palamino. they have 110 race gas also and its right on the way to the track of course, i don't use that garbage 110 oct now but i used to all the time with the old srt-4 seeing how i use to live 2 miles from it.

yeah i know about that one still not changed from what ever they have in it they wont change it until may 1st
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