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Old 10-01-2007, 02:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool The day the SRT4 and SRT8 went out to play in the UK

So heres the story of the little SRT4 and her big brother, the SRT8 Charger when one sunny sunday afternoon, they decided to go out and play, er... kick ass on the highway in the greater London area.

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So this army guy I know named Brian has the only SRT8 Charger (black) that we know of in the country, and mine is one of like 5 SRT4s in the country, and the only one in my area . We got invited to a mopar show at this air field. There was also a volvo show and a Triumph show going on at the same place, along with the TVR club (that was actually pretty cool to see) Anywho, anyone under 3.5" tall loved my car, and anyone over that loved the Charger. Both got a lot of pics taken. The SRT4 and Charger sat there giving threatening looks to all the Triumphs across the way, and they just sat there, shaking all their bolts loose in fear. (me and Brian like to beat up on Brit cars... its like kicking the shit out of a 6 year old in a wheelchair) Enough of that crap, on to the race

1st run: 65 roll. 3 honks. Charger gets a late start, SRT4 blows him out of the water, and misses 4th.

2nd run: 65 roll, 3 finger countdown. Charger gets another late start, but not as bad. SRT4 wins, but not by as much. For once I didnt miss 4th.

3r run: 45-50 roll, 3 finger countdown. This is one of the good ones! No brakeboosting or anything, and Brian learns how to count to 3, and so hes up by a fender (lousy turbo lag ), with the SRT4 maintaining bad-assness with a neck and neck race with the thundering V8. A slow shift into 4th puts another couple of feet on the "neon", but I cant see his taillights yet, and am starting to catch up to his front fender. 130 rolls around and we shut down.

Id say the 2 cars are as even as you can get, based on the last run. With a better driver, Amber might have even pulled him. We got back to his house and I was like "That damn things pretty fuckin fast" He points to Amber and says "THAT little bastards pretty damn fast!"
We got a lot of looks running down the motorway together. Well have to have another playdate sometime, hopefully with a damn video camera
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assume no HOM.

Keep meaning to ask you how the gas is out there.

nice kill man.
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Dont know if id even call it a kill, but yeah, no HOM, otherwise I think he would have been toast. Gas sucks. 92 is best I can get. If I go up to lakenheath I have to buy octane booster because the base gas sucks even worse. They label it as 97 around town, but you have to subtract like 5 octan because they formulate it different over here.
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the srt8 stock????
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Quote: Originally Posted by orange_blaster
Dont know if id even call it a kill, but yeah, no HOM, otherwise I think he would have been toast. Gas sucks. 92 is best I can get. If I go up to lakenheath I have to buy octane booster because the base gas sucks even worse. They label it as 97 around town, but you have to subtract like 5 octan because they formulate it different over here.

They give the RON there.
Racing fuels are usually classified the same, but list the RON, and MON.
Here, you get the average of the two.

What is 97 there, R+M/2 is 92, and actual MON is 87. Probably typical of 92 octane here.

That's why 100 octane, R+M/2 here, can be as low as 93 or 94 MON.

VP Racing fuels MS109 unleaded is 109 RON, 101 MON, with a 105 R+M method. It's realistically, 101 octane gas.

Leaded C16 is actually 116 MON. Basically, you can hold a lighter under it, and have trouble setting it off! (Okay, not really, but you get the point!)

RON is the "actual" octane. MON is the octane, under a pre-determined load, in a single cylinder engine, etc......

This is why different octane gasolines, actually don't follow the same stoich pattern for complete burn. 14.7 is used because that's very close for most gasoline sold in the USA that doesn't come out of a racing barrel, and most gas companies strive to ensure that their gasoline burns completely at that point.

You find recommendations on race fuel sites, for running certain blends in the 13.5 range, and other blends closer to 11.5..... This is because they burn differently.

Higher MON #'s, on the same R+M/2 will perform better in real applications. And, the higher the MON, because actual loads are much more extreme than the pre-determined figure used generally, is an indication of how it will do, but slight increases in MON can actually be much larger in anti-knock qualities, in reality.
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