Deep cryogenic tempering is a one-time, homogenous process that permanently and dramatically improves the performance and useful life of metals in everything from brake rotors and performance engines to machine tools and gun barrels. Using a proprietary computer-controlled process, the metal is cooled slowly to deep cryogenic temperatures (-300?), and slowly returned to room temperature, then heat-tempered as the final step. Computer technology allows us to regulate temperatures to 1 degree, accurately controlling Cryo tempering in accordance with the material and mass of your parts. Although not apparent to the naked eye, the improvements to the metal are significant. Deep cryogenic tempering creates dramatic increases in abrasive wear resistance and durability. The increases in tensile strength, toughness and stability couple with the release of internal residual stresses.
Deep cryogenic processing creates a large amount of fine or small carbides that precipitate uniformly throughout the lattice structure. This greatly improves the wear properties of metal. The process also completes the martensitic phase change which creates a metallurgically improved and stabilized alloy.
Why Cryo automotive parts?
Virtually all engine parts respond to cryogenic treatment. Treated piston rings seal better against treated cylinder walls reducing blow-by and increasing horsepower. Cylinder blocks do not distort when subjected to the heat and vibration of racing so cylinder bores stay straight and smooth. Aluminum pistons and cylinder heads resist detonation longer. Crankshafts and connecting rods have longer service life without breaking. Camshafts, bearings, timing gears, valves and valve springs, timing chains and tappets all last significantly longer under severe conditions. Bottom line: cryogenically-treated racing engines last three to five times longer.
The same is true in driveline components. Bearings, transmission and differential gears and cases, all respond to the process. And, clutch disks and pressure plates are much less likely to warp after they have been treated.
Pricing info is listed for 4cyl assemblies (heads/blocks/engine), but we can do just about any engine setup. PM me for details on any custom application.
Keep in mind that anything that is cryo treated is also tempered to a temperature of 300 degrees F so be sure that materials can withstand these temps. (no non-high temp plastics)
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Great Info! Now I actually know about the process. Glad that I had you do the manifold for me. Before, I noticed alot of hair-line cracks in the manifold. Now I'll have no worries.
Great Info! Now I actually know about the process. Glad that I had you do the manifold for me. Before, I noticed alot of hair-line cracks in the manifold. Now I'll have no worries.
You bet!
On our turbofolds (both stock and S3R's), there still are casting seams that may appear like cracks (I didn't see any cracks on your mani as it was new), and after the porting process they are all taken down flush and smooth with the rest of the runner.
The great thing is the cryo treatment on the manifolds will prevent cracking and make the manifold last 4-5 times longer before any cracking appears and it won't be as severe either.
cryotreatment is meant to help things wear less more than make them stroner on the tensil strength. SO your 3td gear problem would not be really an ideal componant for it. Also the higher the cobalt levl in a part the better the process works.
Are you going through a large company to do this or a smaller one. Could you give some info into the company that is doing the cryo for you thank you
If I get my whole engine cryo treated is it capable of running 550whp? or is it better to buy JE pistons and rods and new rings
new rods and pistons. definatly the pistons wil still need to be done. doing cryo to your whole engine will help it last longer on the wear and tear part not so much the breaking part.
Look into it a lil.. couple companies spealizing in that also Form and Function just said in this post they do it. Was just wonder if that would be as good and work out cheaper then buying all new parts.. engine rebuild kits
What about the tranny. I've heard of people cryo treating these before with good results. That seems to be the weakest part of our cars. Is there anyway to do this?
What about the tranny. I've heard of people cryo treating these before with good results. That seems to be the weakest part of our cars. Is there anyway to do this?
you can take your tranny apart and have the pieces treated. it will help save on the wear the parts endure which in turn will make it last longer.
Look into it a lil.. couple companies spealizing in that also Form and Function just said in this post they do it. Was just wonder if that would be as good and work out cheaper then buying all new parts.. engine rebuild kits
a combonation of buying some new parts and having everything treated would be best.
I have dealt with cryo companies in both personal and profesional parts of my life. I have for a very long time been in favor of cryotreating anything you can before putting it on your car to help it last longer.
Wow, I step aside for 1/2 a day and Caric picks up the slack! Thanks duder!
He is right on. Parts that are known to fatigue out, or are in constant wear, will benifit from cryo treatment. Same with parts that see continuous high temps such as rotors (friction is involved too) and out exhaust manifolds.
Although cryo treatment will be a benifit for most parts, I am NOT recommending cryo treatment as a way cut corners or be a cure-all. An example of proper use of cryo treatment would be if your mods have you at 400hp and there is one component that has been known to fatigue out around there, the cryo will be added insurance that the piece(s) in question won't be an issue. Make sense?
a853rox can you give me an estimate on a ported intake mani+ that coating.
Thanks
You should consider ceramic coating instead of cyro treatment. Cyro treatment is more of a hardness treatment to preventing the integrity of the part from fatigue usually caused from high heat or "wear & tear". Certain ceramic coating treatments that Bob (A853ROX) offers will either allow heat to dissapate or deflect heat. However Bob can offer more insight to this also.
a853rox can you give me an estimate on a ported intake mani+ that coating.
Thanks
PM sent!
Quote: Originally Posted by hydrohopper
You should consider ceramic coating instead of cyro treatment. Cyro treatment is more of a hardness treatment to preventing the integrity of the part from fatigue usually caused from high heat or "wear & tear". Certain ceramic coating treatments that Bob (A853ROX) offers will either allow heat to dissapate or deflect heat. However Bob can offer more insight to this also.
I'm assuming that someone had referred him to my section and just posted up the inquiry in my first sticky. No biggie though.
Although the cryo treatment would help prevent the flange from warping (dimensionally stabilizes the manifold), it really won't be much of a benifit to cyro it as I have not heard of any issues about warping.
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