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Old 09-03-2007, 11:44 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Only ricers race from a dig.
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Stage3 wheel-42lb./min
16g wheel-44lb./min
20g wheel-47lb./min
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:21 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mean9reenMachine
Stage3 wheel-42lb./min
16g wheel-44lb./min
20g wheel-47lb./min

thank you

I knew they had to be bigger
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
Nice way to beat on the lowly powered EVOs..

Try running something more your speed - like a GT35R EVO with cams, meth, etc.. I seriously doubt you'd fly past him from a dig..

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You stupid fuck! HOW CAN YOU COMPARE A gT35R AGAINST A STAGE THREE TURBO? YOU AR NO BETTER THEN THE IDIOTS HERE THAT SAY THIS WAS A FAIR VICTORY. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN BEAT BY ONE TOO MANY LOW BUDGET FOUR BANGERS. YOU ARE SO IGNORANT NOT EVEN YOUR OVER PRICED AWD WILL SAVE YOU. FUCK I HATE YOU GUYS.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:56 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by andrewsboots
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Nice way to beat on the lowly powered EVOs..

Try running something more your speed - like a GT35R EVO with cams, meth, etc.. I seriously doubt you'd fly past him from a dig..

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^^ thanks captain obvious.

anyway,
Stage 3 turbo is not a BIG turbo. Anyone else see it this way?

It isn't a big turbo, but that's what I would have gotten if I had kept my SRT-4. The powerband is very appealing.

It's not a big turbo, but it's still bigger than a stock Evo

Yet another dumbass who hasnt looked at a stage three. You guys need to realize the only reason your little ass no torque 2.0's have any torque or hp because your turbo is good size. Go make another 600 dollar car payment idiot.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:26 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by TheGreyGhost

Yet another dumbass who hasnt looked at a stage three. You guys need to realize the only reason your little ass no torque 2.0's have any torque or hp because your turbo is good size. Go make another 600 dollar car payment idiot.

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It seems I waited too long, this turd has finally died. I am going to part it out and sell the carcass. I dont know how but Ill get rid of it. Unreliable piece of crap. It wouldnt even take a 22psi run on time. I know the flaming is coming. I dont care. Soon I will have an evo or sti, Ill find a way to afford it. Should have bought one of those in the first place. I cant beleive it still. It was like buhwooooooommmm, buhwooooooooommmm, buhwooooo.........cuhpwhoooo clunk, shuwhooooooo and there was a fist size dent in the hood, oil all over the wind shield. I almost wrecked trying to stop. How the hell would I sell this piece of shit all banged up like that. Very disappaointed here.

To have a little ass no torque 2.0, it sure seems like you want one.

But hey what do I know, I'm a dumbass:

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Well guys i really need help here, I was doing a boost leak test and it was going fine until I really screwed up. I pressurized it to 20psi and there were no leaks so I decided to try and see what would happen if you started it with 20psi in the system and this is what happened..... It went ruh, ruh, ruh, vrooooom, and then KABANG!!!!!! Bluh, Bluh, BLUH, BLUH, and then it was like Chagoom, Chagoom, Chagoom, Chagoom, and then it just died. I havent tried to start it since then it just happened. Do you think there could be any permanent damage?????

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Stage3 wheel-42lb./min
16g wheel-44lb./min
20g wheel-47lb./min

At what boost pressure are these rated?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mean9reenMachine
Stage3 wheel-42lb./min
16g wheel-44lb./min
20g wheel-47lb./min


Did a little searching myself....

Mitsubishi:
16g = 34lb/min
Big 16g = 36lb/min
EVO III Big 16g = 36-40lb/min (DSMLink has logged several 40+) NEW!!!
20g = 44lb/min


You obviously found the flow rates of a EVO III big 16G. I looked around on numerous sites with the stock 9 turbo (TD05HR-16G6-10.5T) and didn't find anything showing 44 lbs/min. I seen some green model/20G's flowing that much, but not a stock 9 turbo.

Oh forgot....http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...fications.html

Carry on....
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:35 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mean9reenMachine
Stage3 wheel-42lb./min
16g wheel-44lb./min
20g wheel-47lb./min


Did a little searching myself....

Mitsubishi:
16g = 34lb/min
Big 16g = 36lb/min
EVO III Big 16g = 36-40lb/min (DSMLink has logged several 40+) NEW!!!
20g = 44lb/min


You obviously found the flow rates of a EVO III big 16G. I looked around on numerous sites with the stock 9 turbo (TD05HR-16G6-10.5T) and didn't find anything showing 44 lbs/min. I seen some green model/20G's flowing that much, but not a stock 9 turbo.

Oh forgot....http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...fications.html

Carry on....

Back when I pocket logged my stock turbo, the most I ever saw with cams and bolt-ons was 39lbs/min with a 28psi spike falling off to around 21-22psi. On straight pump gas I believe it was somewhere around 36lbs/min.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:46 PM   #69 (permalink)
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hmmm, then what would my 47lb./min wheel be? If it's bigger than a 20g wheel...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mean9reenMachine
hmmm, then what would my 47lb./min wheel be? If it's bigger than a 20g wheel...

Hard to say without logging it. Not like ratings matter much anyways, it's how it performs that counts the most.

FWIW, the 20gLT aka FPEvoGreen for the Evo's is rated at 47lb/min, but I remember seeing one member logging up to 52lb/min on race gas.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mean9reenMachine
hmmm, then what would my 47lb./min wheel be? If it's bigger than a 20g wheel...

Not sure. I've never really researched the Stage 3 turbos and don't really even know where or who sells them. Just like dsmfan95 said, the EVOgreen model is suppose to flow around 47lbs/min or a little higher. That is close to a 50trim from what I've read so I guess you could compare that way, but not really sure.

Now do you see why we saying what we were saying? The Evo 9 turbo is a pretty potent turbo for a stock turbo, but in no way will it compare to something like yours....or the base Stage 3 IMO. Even with every bolt on would be hard to say, but I think it could be a little more interesting with race gas or C16 in it.

I was never in no way taking anything away from you or your car. I know its fast, but I also know that the Evo you were racing wasn't up to par compared to yours. To me, it doesn't matter what you spend on the sticker of the car. Both cars whp is close to each others stock, but the Evo just seems to have more room to grow on the stock turbo. The one with the more money,mods, and HP in thier car will generally win when comparing cars that are so close to each other.
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Quote: Originally Posted by dsmfan95
FWIW, the 20gLT aka FPEvoGreen for the Evo's is rated at 47lb/min, but I remember seeing one member logging up to 52lb/min on race gas.

Do you know or seen anyone run a EVOgreen just on pump gas and what kind of numbers they were making? Everyone I've seen is running race gas or alky. I just want to know what kind of power these things make on straight 93 octane dammit.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Corey
Now do you see why we saying what we were saying? The Evo 9 turbo is a pretty potent turbo for a stock turbo, but in no way will it compare to something like yours....or the base Stage 3 IMO. Even with every bolt on would be hard to say, but I think it could be a little more interesting with race gas or C16 in it.

Mopar Stage 3 turbo is a TD05HR-15GK2-10cm2 vs. the
Evo 9 turbo which is a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T.

I don't understand what you mean by saying the Evo 9 turbo does not compare to the stock Stage 3 turbo considering there are both similarly sized turbos. Just going off the provided Mitsubishi part numbers the evo 9 turbo has a larger compressor wheel and larger compressor nozzle outlet area. Granted one would need to look at the actual compressor size and design to really make an informative decision. I would like to have both turbos side be side so I can take them apart and do some actual measuring but I don't think one turbo has such a huge advantage over the other like you make it seem.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Corey
Quote: Originally Posted by dsmfan95
FWIW, the 20gLT aka FPEvoGreen for the Evo's is rated at 47lb/min, but I remember seeing one member logging up to 52lb/min on race gas.

Do you know or seen anyone run a EVOgreen just on pump gas and what kind of numbers they were making? Everyone I've seen is running race gas or alky. I just want to know what kind of power these things make on straight 93 octane dammit.

Going by my trap speeds, I'm probably making around 370whp on pump. I've seen a few members squeeze out 400whp on a dynojet on straight pump.
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Now do you see why we saying what we were saying? The Evo 9 turbo is a pretty potent turbo for a stock turbo, but in no way will it compare to something like yours....or the base Stage 3 IMO. Even with every bolt on would be hard to say, but I think it could be a little more interesting with race gas or C16 in it.

Mopar Stage 3 turbo is a TD05HR-15GK2-10cm2 vs. the
Evo 9 turbo which is a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T.

I don't understand what you mean by saying the Evo 9 turbo does not compare to the stock Stage 3 turbo considering there are both similarly sized turbos. Just going off the provided Mitsubishi part numbers the evo 9 turbo has a larger compressor wheel and larger compressor nozzle outlet area. Granted one would need to look at the actual compressor size and design to really make an informative decision. I would like to have both turbos side be side so I can take them apart and do some actual measuring but I don't think one turbo has such a huge advantage over the other like you make it seem.


Dude....you just like to argue don't you. I was saying a Evo 9 turbo DOES NOT COMPARE TO HIS TURBO. Which has a 47lbs/min wheel. I also said it wouldn't compare either when you have one car equiped with all the bolt ons and the other being relatively stock. Yeah, the compressor housing and the exhaust housing may be bigger on the 9's turbo, but the compressor wheel on the Stage 3 is obviously bigger.
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