S3r vs. AGP 50Trim - SRT Forums

mole' · 07-17-2007, 01:34 AM

here are a few videos from the other day when Julio 04TurboSRT S3r ran (jason@FTP) Jason Murrtown 50Trim after the S.T. Motorsports Dyno Day in SoCal.

S3r Dyno #s were 376Hp and 432Tq
best 1/4#s are 11.9 @ 115.6

AGP 50Trim #s were 412Hp and 408Tq
best 1/4#s are 12.0 @ 116.3
best ET is 121mph

these ones were taken from the S3 car by Mole'

Stage 3 Julio vs. AGP 50Trim Jason
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SRT-4 Mopar Stage 3r 376Whp/432Wtq (Julio) vs SRT-4 AGP 50Trim 413Whp/408Wtq. (Jason) #1 - Video
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SRT-4 Mopar Stage 3r 376Whp/432Wtq (Julio) vs SRT-4 AGP 50Trim 413Whp/408Wtq. (Jason) run #2 - Video
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SRT-4 Mopar Stage 3r 376Whp/432Wtq (Julio) vs SRT-4 AGP 50Trim 413Whp/408Wtq. (Jason) run #3 - Video

this one was taken from the 50Trim car

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Leo · 07-17-2007, 01:42 AM

did the 50 brake boost?

srt4turbo04 · 07-17-2007, 01:45 AM

Nice runs. Was the 50 trim car brake boosting at all? I guess the S3r's high torque, faster spool, and flatter power curve really helps out.

Can't see the last run from within the 50 trim car. Photobucket is down doing Maintenance at the moment.

mole' · 07-17-2007, 01:49 AM

im not sure if Jason (50Trim) was break boosting or not. cant say for sure.

reed32 · 07-17-2007, 01:51 AM

yeah the 50trim driver has to wot shift against stage3r on hom, if he doesn't that will happen.

both are nice cars but with a better driver (50trim car) it would have been a closer race.

SRT4 life · 07-17-2007, 01:56 AM

damn, even with the lower TQ numbers i was expecting the 50 trim to pull...nice runs.

mole' · 07-17-2007, 02:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by reed32

yeah the 50trim driver has to wot shift against stage3r on hom, if he doesn't that will happen.

both are nice cars but with a better driver (50trim car) it would have been a closer race.

the S3 car has walked this 50Trim before non-HOM when the 50Trim had RACE gas and his race tune 29PSI..............418Hp and 458Tq

reed32 · 07-17-2007, 02:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

Quote: Originally Posted by reed32

yeah the 50trim driver has to wot shift against stage3r on hom, if he doesn't that will happen.

both are nice cars but with a better driver (50trim car) it would have been a closer race.

the S3 car has walked this 50Trim before non-HOM when the 50Trim had RACE gas and his race tune 29PSI..............

something is not right with that car then or the driver needs more practice with the power.

my big t i never lost against stage 3 but i don't under estimate them at all.
stage 3 can play with the big boys if its set up right.

matthew00029 · 07-17-2007, 02:12 AM

Would the stage 3 beat a 3076R with 450HP the same way? Just wondering for my future turbo kit

**FWSRT-4** · 07-17-2007, 02:24 AM

LOL just like the old adage goes; "bigger isn't always better". Good runs Mole!

srad2drag · 07-17-2007, 02:27 AM

Something definitely is not right with the 50trim..That shit there is ridiculous.

srt4101 · 07-17-2007, 02:30 AM

The 50 trim is only as good as it's driver, definatly not a turbo for everyone. From my experience in the stage 3 vs 50 trim. A bolt on stage 3 on hom 375-385hp will be neck and neck with a 50 trim on pump gas that makes 410-420hp. But the 50 trim will require excellent driving to be neck and neck. In my opinion and experience with both setups a 50 trim needs 30hp more then a stage 3 to run as quick due to the power band diffrences of the 2 turbos. Nice videos though.

srt4turbo04 · 07-17-2007, 02:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by srt4101

The 50 trim is only as good as it's driver, definatly not a turbo for everyone. From my experience in the stage 3 vs 50 trim. A bolt on stage 3 on hom 375-385hp will be neck and neck with a 50 trim on pump gas that makes 410-420hp. But the 50 trim will require excellent driving to be neck and neck. In my opinion and experience with both setups a 50 trim needs 30hp more then a stage 3 to run as quick due to the power band diffrences of the 2 turbos. Nice videos though.

I 100% agree with that. This is coming from a 50 trim owner. The DBB I have helps a little bit with the lag but I've done a couple pulls where I shift a little to early or not perfect and man do you feel it fall on it's face some.

tamadx · 07-17-2007, 06:36 AM

makes me re think 50 trims....they are nice but some times you dont want to worry about not shifting exactly where you need to... s3r pulls hard at the shifts its nuts

...oh btw mole i think you made me throw up in my mouth a little bit becuase of the shaky camera lol

fusion · 07-17-2007, 07:14 AM

Well I can say from experience that Julio's car is very fast. Nice runs.

LOL I love the wheelspin hand dance in the second vid.