I dont know if zenkat is on a built hesd/block, but I know he rins on a smaller turbo that cheifs and traps 130+. What do you say about his setup? How much do you suspevt him to be making? I know comparing trap speed is irrelevant and basing hp numbers off it is too since zenkat makes 450 on a big wheel stage3, but i know chief is making a lot more than that. I wanna say maybe around 500 with his current settings/setup. I know those track times in his sig are from a bad track day and I think he said he was having clutch isssues, lock out issue, ect. Would have to pull his old thresd up to verify, but keep in mind, those times were on a differnt turbo as well with less boost. Now on a bigger setup, 5+more psi, I wouldnt doubt hes making 500. But, its hard to base those speculatiins off his vids against 350-400 whp cars like tnese 50's and that SS. And, your right about spinning crappy tires and even stock turbo having ability to spin tires in 3rd. With the torque the stock turbo makes soo fast, its hard to believe tney can spin in 3rd, and some big turbo cars cant. Doesnt mean shit though. Spinning doesnt mean crap thoigh. Doesnt mean your making gobs of power. Maybe a nice torque spike, but not shit for power. But, with big turbos like some of us on here, running 25-35psi, and spinning street tires all the way tnrough 3rd bouncing off the rev limit like your driving on water, I can see big numbes being speculated from othrrs just by mentiining this^^...dont know how much he makes, but im willing to bet its close to 500. I know the stock hesd is a bigg restrictiin, but others have been able to make 450+ on stock head/cams before. I know recently 97civicturbo posted up his dyno sheet and noone believed him since he didnt do soo good at the track. But, you gotta remeber, not everyone is good at driving from a dead stop. Not evetyone knows how to launch. Not everyone knows how to bang thru them gears. I know the back half of the quarter should be looking good, and with the said car making 500, should've been trapping 125+ with crappy dring skillz, bit far too many variables come into play with things like these. But, chief does need to hit tne track once he back from deployment and get that 125+trap and shut everyone up about tnis roll racing sucks, take it to the track deal and hit the track and lets see what you trao, that'll tell us your really making 450-500. I guess, some people got tbe driving skills, and some dont. Idk