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Old 04-24-2007, 04:46 PM   #1066 (permalink)
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Awesome. Welp once RS puts the MS up forsale I might have to get one and play around with it a little.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:04 PM   #1067 (permalink)
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Also any ideas on another good vaccume source? Before the MS installation I had my BOV and water injection solenoids T'd into the vaccume source that went into the Throttle Body. Well now I needed a source for the MAP sensor on the MS and have so far T'd into the same source used already. I dont think it will be a problem, but in case it is any ideas where else I can T my map sensor into for the MS?
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:16 PM   #1068 (permalink)
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In my car, there was a joint in the vacuum line between the manifold and brake booster. You could pull apart that joint and T in there for a very direct lead.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:19 PM   #1069 (permalink)
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can you just t off of the line going to the boost gauge its already in the car anyway? or would that be a bad idea somehow lol
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:30 PM   #1070 (permalink)
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Alrighty, the timing was verified at a chosen angle of 62 netted a 9.8-10.1 degrees on the timing wheel when the timing was locked down in MS to 10 degrees. The variance was due to a idle surge. So kudos to all that helped develop the NGC code!

I am compiling a write up as we speak and I should have it done in the next few days. I will include a basic MSQ that will fire up the car, idle, part throttle and some light boost but, due to all the possible combos out there, I will make it go pig rich after a few psi.

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Old 04-24-2007, 08:38 PM   #1071 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by CASPERAMC
can you just t off of the line going to the boost gauge its already in the car anyway? or would that be a bad idea somehow lol

When I wired in an e-manage for a friend, I used the boost guage line and found that the boost guage bleeds off pressure. When the guage wasnt teed in, more psi was seen by the e-manage. Then if you put the guage in the circuit about 1-2 psi less. This is from 15-19psi and only recording peak boost. There were no leaks in the lines other than the stock guage. I'd say to tee closer to the manifold, than at the end of a long line. It might make a difference
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:40 PM   #1072 (permalink)
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o wow didnt now that thanks
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Quote: Originally Posted by David Bohrer
Alrighty, the timing was verified at a chosen angle of 62 netted a 9.8-10.1 degrees on the timing wheel when the timing was locked down in MS to 10 degrees. The variance was due to a idle surge. So kudos to all that helped develop the NGC code!

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To add:
einstein's MSQ had a trigger angle of 61, so it was very close. And when leaving the PCM in control of IAC functions, you need to tee into the TPS so the PCM can still read it...
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HA!

I cheated. I installed a resistor to the TPS signal line. A little but it works.


BTW nice reverse lights....
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:13 AM   #1075 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by David Bohrer
Alrighty, the timing was verified at a chosen angle of 62 netted a 9.8-10.1 degrees on the timing wheel when the timing was locked down in MS to 10 degrees. The variance was due to a idle surge. So kudos to all that helped develop the NGC code!

I am compiling a write up as we speak and I should have it done in the next few days. I will include a basic MSQ that will fire up the car, idle, part throttle and some light boost but, due to all the possible combos out there, I will make it go pig rich after a few psi.

Good work. Email me an MSQ file that runs the SRT-4 and I'll add it to the zip archive as a "base map" of sorts.

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Old 04-25-2007, 05:37 AM   #1076 (permalink)
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Also, for those of you that are really brave... The MS2/Extra developers (MSnS-E for the new MS2 chip) have added support for the NGC 36-2+2. This is brand new "alpha" grade code so only hard core testers should use it. When this code gets finialized it will be real nice.

Read more here: http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?t=23867

FYI, they call it 36-1+1

Advantages over MS1? 16-bit chip with much higher precision for both fuel and spark calcuations.

Cost? Extra $90. Simply unplug the ms1 cpu from your board and plug in the MS2. External wiring should be the same.
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Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie
Also, for those of you that are really brave... The MS2/Extra developers (MSnS-E for the new MS2 chip) have added support for the NGC 36-2+2. This is brand new "alpha" grade code so only hard core testers should use it. When this code gets finialized it will be real nice.

Read more here: http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?t=23867

FYI, they call it 36-1+1

Advantages over MS1? 16-bit chip with much higher precision for both fuel and spark calcuations.

Cost? Extra $90. Simply unplug the ms1 cpu from your board and plug in the MS2. External wiring should be the same.

hmmm mine came with the MS2 extra, but still is a MS1 controller. So I would just need to buy a MS2 cpu?
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There's no way it could have come with MS2/Extra without an MS2 chip. But yeah, $90 ms2 chip and the alpha code.
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Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie
There's no way it could have come with MS2/Extra without an MS2 chip. But yeah, $90 ms2 chip and the alpha code.

Well mine has the MS2 extra....on the bottom of the box it doesnt have anything marked by MS I or MS II...the 3rd blank down it has MS2-Extra marked....cant remember the version # off hand...029V?

Edit....here is what it says from my order....

1 x MegaSquirt v3.0 ECU for 420A Engine
- MAP Sensor: 4.0-bar (44 psig)
- Upgrade to MegaSquirt II: Standard MS-I Controller

So it has the MS2 extra marked on the back of it....I am guessing I have it on the new board just needing the cpu now?
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Quote: Originally Posted by vschaos
Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie
There's no way it could have come with MS2/Extra without an MS2 chip. But yeah, $90 ms2 chip and the alpha code.

Well mine has the MS2 extra....on the bottom of the box it doesnt have anything marked by MS I or MS II...the 3rd blank down it has MS2-Extra marked....cant remember the version # off hand...029V?

Edit....here is what it says from my order....

1 x MegaSquirt v3.0 ECU for 420A Engine
- MAP Sensor: 4.0-bar (44 psig)
- Upgrade to MegaSquirt II: Standard MS-I Controller

So it has the MS2 extra marked on the back of it....I am guessing I have it on the new board just needing the cpu now?

regardless of what you have, you'll probably get charged $90 for the upgrade anyway
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