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Old 12-06-2007, 08:23 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Look at it as a learning experience. If it seems like work to you then buy an AEM.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:40 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Look at it as a learning experience. If it seems like work to you then buy an AEM.

no thanks...no AEM for me...I want something that can always be upgraded and tinkered with.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:33 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Thanks for being a guinea pig. I finally visited the .org and found that TSB for the new RS units. Wish I would have seen that sooner. I wasted alot of time trying to figure it out myself. I'm going to get a better grasp on the MS1 before I jump into the MS2. I'm sure more than a few people would appreciate a good stock turbo base map.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:54 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Looks like Monday, I'll be doing some work. The 1680cc injectors just aren't tunable enough under regular code, so I'll be adding a resistor box, and switching to hi-res. Anything I should watch out for?

The process I plan to take to upgrade is as follows:
Upload the firmware from Boost Junkie's file.
Go through the ini files and see if there are any variables I need to change.
Reload the existing MSQ I'm using
Go back through the settings in megatune to verify everything is reading right.

Am I forgetting anything? Am I doing more work than I need to?
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:12 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Looks like Monday, I'll be doing some work. The 1680cc injectors just aren't tunable enough under regular code, so I'll be adding a resistor box, and switching to hi-res. Anything I should watch out for?

The process I plan to take to upgrade is as follows:
Upload the firmware from Boost Junkie's file.
Go through the ini files and see if there are any variables I need to change.
Reload the existing MSQ I'm using
Go back through the settings in megatune to verify everything is reading right.

Am I forgetting anything? Am I doing more work than I need to?

I think you have it, but you are not suppose to reload your existing msq. Export your tables and write down all your settings. When you upgrade the firmware then you have to manually go in and set your settings from what you wrote down earlier. Last import your tables. I heard that people have problems when attempting to use a msq from the older version.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:43 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Everything is happy. I did in fact load the existing MSQ into the megasquirt, and then went digging for any changes in the settings. There were only slight changes, and they were easy fixes.
And yes, it's amazing. Within 5 minutes of tuning, the car felt stock on 1680cc injectors. All Hail Boost Junkie!
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:44 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Cool beans! I had a hiccup when upgrading to HR09 from HR08 and had to retune, don't know why that was...?

Boost, you say to ugrade to the newest HR10xx any differences in that one? I'm just not in the mood to retune if I run into another hiccup. I have it very good right now, but I'm about to go to the dyno and tune up higher in the PSI range. You said something about having trouble reading 4bar setups. I have a 4bar and will use most of the range on the dyno.

Now that I think of it, I may just upgrade, tune on the way there and by the time I get there it should be good enough to strap to the rollers. I have a c16 mix in it right now anyway.
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I should probably add that changing over to hi-res did not change the occurance of the hiccups, further implying that I just need to add grounds, as Boost Junkie said.

Everyone that's having the hiccup, please try adding grounds before putting him through more fits. I'll report back after I do the same.
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hr09 to 10d will need tuning. There were significant fixes changes in 3/4 bar map code as well has fuel injection calculation.
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Yep, that's what I'm running. Yes, it needed significant tuning, but I also changed fuel pressure and put the injectors on resistors at the same time, so it was somewhat expected.
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Quote: Originally Posted by esteinmaier View Post
I should probably add that changing over to hi-res did not change the occurance of the hiccups, further implying that I just need to add grounds, as Boost Junkie said.

Everyone that's having the hiccup, please try adding grounds before putting him through more fits. I'll report back after I do the same.

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hr09 to 10d will need tuning. There were significant fixes changes in 3/4 bar map code as well has fuel injection calculation.

I should have elaborated more on what i meant by "hiccups." When I upgraded, the whole fuel map was thrown off. Idle was so rich it washed out the rings within a few seconds and tried to smoke me out of the car. Higher rpms were lean. I tried to rescale the whole thing but that didn't work. I had to retune it all. If I have to do that again when upgrading to 10d I may put it off until I have more free time. I feel like I have it tuned very well right now. I will upgrade before going to the dyno. If I pay them to tune my car, why do it myself?
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I should have elaborated more on what i meant by "hiccups." When I upgraded, the whole fuel map was thrown off. Idle was so rich it washed out the rings within a few seconds and tried to smoke me out of the car. Higher rpms were lean. I tried to rescale the whole thing but that didn't work. I had to retune it all. If I have to do that again when upgrading to 10d I may put it off until I have more free time. I feel like I have it tuned very well right now. I will upgrade before going to the dyno. If I pay them to tune my car, why do it myself?

I hear that. When I get my manifold and turbo stuff back I plan on upgrading mine. I will drive it on the trailer and then do the upgrade and trailor it over there Make them deal with the tune
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I hear that. When I get my manifold and turbo stuff back I plan on upgrading mine. I will drive it on the trailer and then do the upgrade and trailor it over there Make them deal with the tune

Well they need it to run at least. Most dynos I've seen won't touch it if they have to get it running for you.....well they will but you will have to fork over the money.
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hr09 to 10d will need tuning. There were significant fixes changes in 3/4 bar map code as well has fuel injection calculation.

OK, now I just reread the thread and i confused myself again...

Are we talking about 420a code or NGC with this high res 10d? I have the 420a code which i know is different than the NGC code for MS1 but is the HR10d specific to the NGC 029y4(or whatever it is) or are the HR codes interchangeable between 420a and NGC codes? I know MS2 is different, and as you say inherintly high res.
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Well they need it to run at least. Most dynos I've seen won't touch it if they have to get it running for you.....well they will but you will have to fork over the money.

Yea I thought about that....I will get it to run for sure before bringing it over.
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OK, now I just reread the thread and i confused myself again...

Are we talking about 420a code or NGC with this high res 10d? I have the 420a code which i know is different than the NGC code for MS1 but is the HR10d specific to the NGC 029y4(or whatever it is) or are the HR codes interchangeable between 420a and NGC codes? I know MS2 is different, and as you say inherintly high res.

now you just confused me....
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