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Old 08-20-2007, 08:40 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The developers of the MS2 code wrote a decoder for 36-2+2 which is what the NGC uses. To my knowledge it has not been tested, however. There's a thread on www.msextra.com in the ms2 development forum (no posts in it though).

If you recall I made a thread about it in this forum several months back when the ms2 developers announced support for 36-2+2.

Also, I'd be happy to help debug the MS1 36-2+2 decoder but I need some data to go from...
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Looks like there is a newer high res code out there correct? I dont have the new MS2 chip on my v 3.0 board, but I am willing to upgrade the chip if its needed for this new code. I was thinking of sending my unit into RS autosport to have them do the "Ignition Module Upgrade", upgrade to the MS2 chip and go ahead and load the new code on it if possible. Has anyone had success with the ignition module upgrade or heard any faults? I want to get everything as good as it can before I bring over to get it fully tuned on Dec 8th.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If you're willing to test it out go for it. The MS2 daughter board is only about $90. I don't think the NGC decoder has been tested by anyone yet though.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie
If you're willing to test it out go for it. The MS2 daughter board is only about $90. I don't think the NGC decoder has been tested by anyone yet though.

If I was keen on programming and being able to figure out issues when they arise by going into the code and knowing where to look I would gladly make the purchase for testing. However, if something was not working properly I honestly wouldnt know what to do. I guess if I had someone to call if something wasnt operating correctly I could do that, but that would be a pain for the other person on the phone because its not in front of them. Sigh....I really want to do it...maybe I could buy it and bring it over to guhfluh one weekend to have him look at it. I will try to contact him and see. I dont have a problem leaving my car with him to do the testing at all, but it would be his time.... Gosh I wish I knew what the heck I was looking at
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Although it would kinda stink to have it fully tuned on dec 8th and then do this upgrade.....then again retunes are only $150.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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MS2/Extra is being actively developed (see www.msextra.com to track progress) so you don't actually have to write code. If there are issues you will simply have to help them debug.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Updated 1st post with NGC version of 10d2
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Very nice. I would use this code, but I dont have ms2 stuff yet. I will have to get a board built and test it out in the near future.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:35 AM   #24 (permalink)
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No, the code in this thread is the high res version for MS1 cpu.

MS2 code is inherently high res...
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:27 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie View Post
No, the code in this thread is the high res version for MS1 cpu.

MS2 code is inherently high res...

ah well then I will burn it tonight and see how it runs. Will I have to change anything at all? I go for full tune on december 8th, but not sure if there is anything I need to change once I use the new code.

Edit: I did read on the msextra forums that when upgrading to a newer firmware its best to write all your values down and not trying to burn your old msq to the unit....seems to have caused people problems.

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It only works with high impedance injectors or with a resistor box. Other than that it just needs to be tuned.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It only works with high impedance injectors or with a resistor box. Other than that it just needs to be tuned.

sounds good I have the deatschwerks 750cc injectors that are oem replacements so I believe they are high impedance. If all thats needed is a basic dyno tune as nothing major needs changing I will be doing it for sure tomorrow or this weekend at the latest. Do you recommend writing all the values down or is it ok to just reload the last saved msq?
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Well I couldnt remember how we burned your code the first time around to my unit. I remember the guy I paid to install it had a huge time getting the code to burn. I was reading the MSnS-Extra Software Manual

It says something about opening the unit up so you can "short" the 2 holes marked boot loader? After the counter has reached somewhere around 1400 - 1700 depending on the code version, the display will show you the version you have burnt to the ECU and the battery voltage. This means the download is complete, so now the lights on the stim will start flashing again.
You have now finished re-programming the ECU.

I dont remember him opening up the box and checking that...

Edit: also looks like there are some new settings you have to go through in order to get this to work correctly going to the high res code. Being so close to dyno time on what I have right now....I would hate to go into this new code and be stuck.

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Quote: Originally Posted by boost junkie View Post
The developers of the MS2 code wrote a decoder for 36-2+2 which is what the NGC uses. To my knowledge it has not been tested, however. There's a thread on MSx/Extra EFI :: Index in the ms2 development forum (no posts in it though).

If you recall I made a thread about it in this forum several months back when the ms2 developers announced support for 36-2+2.

Also, I'd be happy to help debug the MS1 36-2+2 decoder but I need some data to go from...

I have all the materials... an MSII and an MSI both on V3 boards... I've burned MSII Extra on one, and 029y4 on the other... and I can't get this damned thing to start(my SRT4).

I changed my settings as you decribed in the other post but I haven't tried it yet. When I get this thing running, I plan on using the MSII... I only wish it could control spark with the same transistor mods used for the MSI. :/
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Quote: Originally Posted by vschaos View Post
Well I couldnt remember how we burned your code the first time around to my unit

You only need the boot jumper if its running the standard megasquirt code (not the "extra" code that you already have loaded). All you have to do is connect with the serial cable and run the "download-firmware.bat" program and follow the instructions.

Depending on what code you have loaded currently you might have to verify your settings when you move to hr_10d2.
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