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Old 06-09-2009, 03:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok I'm making a new map 100% from scratch and trying to do it based on text book BS, my question is the throttle inj correction table should i do a WOT tune then log for a value or is their a universal base ???
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lol OK , how about the boost fuel corection table

from what i read for every 100kpa above -0- should be +100 and vise versa for vacume minuse the estimated turbine restriction


i have looked at others maps and they are all over the place
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I once found a spreadsheet online that helped you set up the boost comp table as the first step before tuning the fuel map. If i can find it again i'll let you know
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lol OK , how about the boost fuel corection table

from what i read for every 100kpa above -0- should be +100 and vise versa for vacume minuse the estimated turbine restriction


i have looked at others maps and they are all over the place

The way you described it is fairly accurate. This graph should have fairly linear attributes to it, with the exception being that typically I don't bring the line all the way to -100%. I will usually do a very smooth gradual curve in the vacuum section, and leave it at around -80% at the most.

Your setpoint (the line you're creating) should cross through the 0 Load and 0% intersection as close as possible.

For every 14.7 PSI boost, you should be adding around 100%. So at the 14.7 psi loadpoint, you should be at 100%, and for 29.4 psi loadpoint, you should be at 200%.

Of course, you will never land smack dab perfect on the AFR's using that theory due to chokepoints and efficiencies of either the turbine or compressor.

When dealing with a large turbo, usually the line will start out a little below the assumed targets with the lower boost pressures since a large turbo is much less efficient at lower boost pressures. As boost pressures increase, your line will start taking a more aggressive curve upward until you start reaching the choke limits of either the turbine or compressor (whichever begins to choke up first). Then your line will begin to plateau.
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thanx chuck

i need to redo my map from the 20g to a 35r, i will keep my basic contours but want to start this table off just like you stated o% @ -0- +/-100% per 100kpa

hopefully i will never need more than 25psi and i am assuming the 35r is much less restrictive than a 20g int gate so my tables will need some adjusting

do you do the throttle table at the beginning or end of the tune? would throttle size, intake manifold design, cam/head make a difference in throttle angle VS. fuel % correction, i am firmilliar with alpha-N style tuning but when mixed with the boost comp it gets confusing
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With the "Throttle Inj Correction" table, I simply use that to determine at what throttle position I want to go to "Power Enrichment".

I tune my WOT tables with this set to 0. I then ramp the "throttle Inj Correction" table to a negative value starting from 0% throttle (I believe I have it set to about -30% at 0% throttle) and immediately going to about -15% at the next throttle breakpoint (I believe it's somewhere around 6% throttle). Then about 50% throttle, I ramp it back up to 0 between 2 different throttle breakpoints. So at about 56% throttle, it's sitting at -7.5%, and at 62% throttle, I'm back to 0%.

This changes a lot from one car to the next and is affected by the map resolution settings (MicroSec/bit), Injector sizes and brands, Throttle Body sizes, Camshaft profiles, head porting...etc, etc.

It's one of those settings in an EMS that is user definable to do what the user wants it to do. If you would prefer to have leaner AFR's when you are only barely into the throttle, then adjust it to pull fuel from the base fuel map when you are light on the throttle. You determine the switching point from lean to rich via TPS, but don't forget to tune your AFR's based on Load, as well.

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outstanding, kinda figured that was how it worked but just wanted to hear it, and i set mine up just like you say so at light throttle i can get some great street manners


but i did mess up and mix light and mid calibrations with wot map and screwed up my map, next time i will -0- it out and do only wot then a 50% and calculate the diff

thanx again chuck for an great explanation

these are the type of instructions AEM should include

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