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Old 04-01-2008, 01:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well i have been tweaking with my own map lately since nobody over here in nor cal can tune this damn thing correctly. I want to post up my map and see if you guys can give me some helpful input, how do i attach it to my post though lol sorry.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know the people that can read and understand the maps and that will help will also want you to post up a log file. Heres a link to the sticky
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f298/how-diagnose-using-internal-log-359556/

You might need to be paid member in order to post up an attachment. You may want to just offer up to email the map and the log file if someone offers to look at it.
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you can email it to me.... onthedwnlow@aol.com
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I emailed the map to ya. And some info on the map before it gets posted. The base tune was from modacar and i have worked from there.

I have not set up my traction control at all, so its disabled.

I just took off a MBC on the car and did the smart thing and decided to use the EMS. So the WG Duty cycle table is like all one value because i just started playing with it and finding what % equals what amount of boost. And i did begin to mess with the VSS dependant.

Have not touched the ignition table, this is the part i need the most help on because i dont know what the values should be at.

The fuel table is pretty much untouched except to get my idle afr's correct. My idle is set at around 1000-1050.

I think thats about it. My mods that matter are:

Stage 3 ported and polished with a 20g wheel
Crane 12 Cams with fidanza cam gears(intake retarded 2, Exhaust retarded 3)
55mm Throttle body with ported intake mani
Stock intake box with k&n
CCA tube/fin intercooler
AGP stg 3 wastegate
3" TBE with Hi-flo cat only
cold side pipe with Tial BOV
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I emailed the map to ya. And some info on the map before it gets posted. The base tune was from modacar and i have worked from there.

I have not set up my traction control at all, so its disabled.

I just took off a MBC on the car and did the smart thing and decided to use the EMS. So the WG Duty cycle table is like all one value because i just started playing with it and finding what % equals what amount of boost. And i did begin to mess with the VSS dependant.

Have not touched the ignition table, this is the part i need the most help on because i dont know what the values should be at.

The fuel table is pretty much untouched except to get my idle afr's correct. My idle is set at around 1000-1050.

I think thats about it. My mods that matter are:

Stage 3 ported and polished with a 20g wheel
Crane 12 Cams with fidanza cam gears(intake retarded 2, Exhaust retarded 3)
55mm Throttle body with ported intake mani
Stock intake box with k&n
CCA tube/fin intercooler
AGP stg 3 wastegate
3" TBE with Hi-flo cat only
cold side pipe with Tial BOV



whats your timing at in your ign. table?

and how much volts are you getting on your knock sensor on the ems
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who tuned your cams?......because the intake cam should be advanced and the exhaust should be retarded......the intake cam being retarded will mess alot of things up
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who tuned your cams?......because the intake cam should be advanced and the exhaust should be retarded......the intake cam being retarded will mess alot of things up

A buddy of mine chris helped tune em when we did my timing belt/water pump/tensioner etc... I figured that was the wrong setting for them, all i wanted to do was shift power into the higher rpms because my car always died at around 5k. The cams tuned by the original owner up until i just tuned them differently were at intake advanced 4 and exhaust retarded 5. That made stupid amounts of torque and i hated it. I guess its time to readjust.
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well if it runs like shit on 0-0.....then you need to tear it back apart and put the cams back on there marks and the crank back on its.....doing the cams the proper way will actually shift the power band more towards red-line
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Im re-tuning them today. I figure i put em at intake advanced 2 and exhaust retarded 3
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A buddy of mine chris helped tune em when we did my timing belt/water pump/tensioner etc... I figured that was the wrong setting for them, all i wanted to do was shift power into the higher rpms because my car always died at around 5k. The cams tuned by the original owner up until i just tuned them differently were at intake advanced 4 and exhaust retarded 5. That made stupid amounts of torque and i hated it. I guess its time to readjust.


-2, -3 like you posted will shift the powerband to the top end, and is perfectly fine.


read my sticky in the cam section. itll explain everything u need to know about cam tuning.

if all you want is top end, id leave the cams as is, or adjust the cam to -1 to help retain a lil bit of spool better (1* goes a long way).
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-2, -3 like you posted will shift the powerband to the top end, and is perfectly fine.


read my sticky in the cam section. itll explain everything u need to know about cam tuning.

if all you want is top end, id leave the cams as is, or adjust the cam to -1 to help retain a lil bit of spool better (1* goes a long way).


Thats what i thought thats why me and my buddy tuned them that way. Cuz honestly with the stage 3 setup i have stupid amounts of torque and no hp. And my power before would drop at like 5k, i would also spool at like 3100. Now with the cams -2 intake and -3 exhaust the car still has a boat load of torque but pulls way harder up top. And it pulls all the way past 5k to past 6k and feels like it just gets more and more powerful. And i still get a full 25-26 psi at around 3100-3200 so the spool time hasnt changed like at all.

Now im hearing different things, i just want to make sure the engine is safe like that. Cuz the car runs great!
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Thats what i thought thats why me and my buddy tuned them that way. Cuz honestly with the stage 3 setup i have stupid amounts of torque and no hp. And my power before would drop at like 5k, i would also spool at like 3100. Now with the cams -2 intake and -3 exhaust the car still has a boat load of torque but pulls way harder up top. And it pulls all the way past 5k to past 6k and feels like it just gets more and more powerful. And i still get a full 25-26 psi at around 3100-3200 so the spool time hasnt changed like at all.

Now im hearing different things, i just want to make sure the engine is safe like that. Cuz the car runs great!


yep its all good.

like i said, peep the sticky in the valvetrain section. its got tons of good info on cam tuning.

id leave em as is tho.
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