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Old 03-27-2008, 12:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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the mopar 3 bar has a problem with not haveing a good vac scale......meaning.....they dont read very well in the lower vac numbers and thus making it harder to tune.....you should be able to get over this because you have cams and thus less vac at idle anyway


i read about that...

i just didnt want to splice any wires w/ the aem 3.5bar

ive had enough w/ hacking my wire harness and want all plug and play.

iirc, it wont read below -25vac w/ the 3bar
if you are in decel then your fuel should be cut off at that point, and would be safe..correct?
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it wont read below -25vac w/ the 3bar
if you are in decel then your fuel should be cut off at that point, and would be safe..correct?

you can cut fuel before that, basically just below warm idle vac. Like mine idles at 18 or so and cuts fuel at 20 or so, its a different computer but same idea. You should get better MPG also with a new computer because you can normally set cruise and low throttle/loads to mid 15's A/F(or as lean as it will go without lean misfiring)
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you can cut fuel before that, basically just below warm idle vac. Like mine idles at 18 or so and cuts fuel at 20 or so, its a different computer but same idea. You should get better MPG also with a new computer because you can normally set cruise and low throttle/loads to mid 15's A/F(or as lean as it will go without lean misfiring)


yep thats what i plan on doing.


i gotta figure out whats wrong w/ my turbo setup before i install the ems tho. im not getting full boost (20psi) until 4300. and i Should be making it around 3600.

no manifold/wg leaks. everything ziptied. clamps tight.

its buggin me the hell out.
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yep thats what i plan on doing.


i gotta figure out whats wrong w/ my turbo setup before i install the ems tho. im not getting full boost (20psi) until 4300. and i Should be making it around 3600.

no manifold/wg leaks. everything ziptied. clamps tight.

its buggin me the hell out.

i actually set my fuel kill at around 0 psi and 1% throttle....is it ever goes under 1% throttle and is less than 0 psi it shuts the fuel off...drives great and gets great mpg

have you checked you exhaust mani gasket?......and your mbc now has alot to do with it......that thing is junk
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i actually set my fuel kill at around 0 psi and 1% throttle....is it ever goes under 1% throttle and is less than 0 psi it shuts the fuel off...drives great and gets great mpg

have you checked you exhaust mani gasket?......and your mbc now has alot to do with it......that thing is junk

thanks for the tip.

and yea, i bought this mbc w/ ceramic ball:
Voodoo IV MBC Manual Boost Controllers

im going to order a hallman Pro RX next week w/ the stiff spring and ceramic ball. supposedly the best mbc out.

but a mbc hurt spool by a 1k rpms?...it doest even spool slow then hit. it just spools slow all the way to 20.
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thanks for the tip.

and yea, i bought this mbc w/ ceramic ball:
Voodoo IV MBC Manual Boost Controllers

im going to order a hallman Pro RX next week w/ the stiff spring and ceramic ball. supposedly the best mbc out.

but a mbc hurt spool by a 1k rpms?...it doest even spool slow then hit. it just spools slow all the way to 20.

why order another mbc when you are going to have the best ebc on the market as soon as you get that ems......and it takes 10 minutes to set it up....especially if you only want to run 1 boost level

yes it can hurt spool.....
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why order another mbc when you are going to have the best ebc on the market as soon as you get that ems......and it takes 10 minutes to set it up....especially if you only want to run 1 boost level

yes it can hurt spool.....


told ya pimpin, i get almost everything on the AEM software BUT the boost control...

too difficult to understand.


a good mbc just really helps keep hair loss and stress to a minimum...
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told ya pimpin, i get almost everything on the AEM software BUT the boost control...

too difficult to understand.


a good mbc just really helps keep hair loss and stress to a minimum...

dude dont waste your money on a boost controler that is gona give you a bigger head ache, you want the one in the ems trust me when you start messin with the other options the ems kills all...DONT DO IT, if ya got to just get the aem selanoid, the boost control is crutial to how your car performs and the ems works on so many different levels
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dude dont waste your money on a boost controler that is gona give you a bigger head ache, you want the one in the ems trust me when you start messin with the other options the ems kills all...DONT DO IT, if ya got to just get the aem selanoid, the boost control is crutial to how your car performs and the ems works on so many different levels


what would the AEM solenoid benefit over the stock solenoid?

yall are reallly pushin this ebc on it...
if you guys praise it like god, then i spose it is...


ill ask my tuner how much extra is to tune...
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what would the AEM solenoid benefit over the stock solenoid?

yall are reallly pushin this ebc on it...
if you guys praise it like god, then i spose it is...


ill ask my tuner how much extra is to tune...

there are hundreds of people on here that still run the stock solenoid as compared to the aem....im switching to a aem but the only reason is because when i re do my vac lines there all getting done with an fittings and i can use the aem solenoid for them....

the aem software for boost is easy to tune....basicly the boost map you set everything below zero boost to either 0 or sometimes alittle higher depending on how you want the car to feel in part throttle driving...i set the lower rpm's to 0 and some of the higher rpms it ramps to 10-15% so its easier to climp hills and stuff around here.....but everything above the 0 boost mark you high light the entire boost graph and add in boost till you get the desired boost level you want....its very simple....if you choose to set up the mph dependant boost what you do is...you do the same thing i just described but you try to hit target marks.....say 14 psi in 1st so you find the duty cycle for 14 psi....17 psi thru 2nd.....find the duty cycle for 17 psi....and so on and so on....and make alittle chart showing what psi = what duty cycle.....then transfer that chart into the vss boost gragh....and then set up the boost curve and click the vss boost button to activate that whole setup....and then reak the benifits of finally having some traction on the streets in the lower gears

you can seriously tune it yourself in 30 minutes

you can also ramp the psi duty cycle's on the lower rpm's in the upper boost and stuff to say 60% duty cycle to help spool the turbo up faster
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First....apologies to DRASTIC for off topic questions

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...im switching to a aem but the only reason is because when i re do my vac lines there all getting done with an fittings and i can use the aem solenoid for them....

Do you have the hardware figured out for this (part numbers - sizes - part sources)?

Are you using an external wastegate?

It seems simple but I've not really had much experience with AN fittings. You would be using -3AN?

Do you have an idea of where you would be mounting the solenoid?
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First....apologies to DRASTIC for off topic questions



Do you have the hardware figured out for this (part numbers - sizes - part sources)?

Are you using an external wastegate?

It seems simple but I've not really had much experience with AN fittings. You would be using -3AN?

Do you have an idea of where you would be mounting the solenoid?

the only fittings i dont have figured out are going to be the ones for the wastegate itself....i have not taken one of the fittings out yet to see what thread they are......its a 38mm tial....the fittings supplied with the aem boost solenoid are for -4an so thats what i will probably use.....i am just piecing it all from jegs....im having aluminum an fittings welded to the intake mani and a few other spots to get rid of almost 90% of my vac lines.....what sucks is my hks bov has that nipple on it and i cant quite figure out how to get a an fitting on that thing
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I completely forgot about the BOV.......I'm running the stock BOV. This will go way off topic so I'll stop. Interesting though.
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I completely forgot about the BOV.......I'm running the stock BOV. This will go way off topic so I'll stop. Interesting though.



why stop?


you and i are both learning about the features. so if i learn something new, im all ears.
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