Anybody running an ignition box with there EMS?

[FraziersSRT]

Hey guys,im doing some research and im trying to find out who all is running an ignition box with there EMS.The reason I ask is...I got tuned yesterday and the car from time to time seemed to studder mid to up top RPM's.Not really breaking up,just studdering while I was on the dyno.My tuner was telling me that some AEM boxes do it and others dont and that the way to fix the problem is to invest in an ignition box.I see that MSD makes one as well as Realtune,im not trying to blow $500 on an ignition box but shit I will if I have to.Is there one in particular that maybe you guys could suggest would be a good mate with the AEM EMS?I was also just reading the sticky in this forum about the coil dwell settings supposed to be at 30,im not sure what mine are at right now but that could definitely be part of the problem,right?Like always any help will be greatly appreciated,thanks alot!



-Frazier

[FraziersSRT]

10 people looked and not one person has something to say?Come on guys somebody has to have at least an idea,lol.

[never2muchboost]

how crazy is your setup? i really have not seen many ignition issues not tune related at well over 500 whp

[Luvin_it]

also curious actually....

[FraziersSRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost

how crazy is your setup? i really have not seen many ignition issues not tune related at well over 500 whp

If you ask me,its not crazy at all man!! Here you go...


- 49lb S3 Turbo
- FBM Externally gated,ported,polished and ceramic coated S3 Manifold
- FBM Intake Mani
- E.D. Super Beast FMIC
- ATP UHP w/HKS bov
- Devils own 3 bar progressive trunk mount kit with 2 nozzles... (first nozzle is an M7,2nd is an M5). I get zero knock at 21psi with 360wtq.No boost leaks,everything is welded and teflon taped.





- 3" TBE
- 3" SRI
- AEM EMS
- NGK V-Powers gapped at 30
- 8.2 mm wires
- DCR 255
- DCR Oil Modifier
- Red star return line
- 03' Rail
- RC 750cc Injectors
- 55mm TB
- Big oil filter kit
- ALL STOCK INTERNALS,lol.

Anybody?

[Greg_04-SRT4]

Quote: Originally Posted by FraziersSRT

- NGK V-Powers gapped at 30

Have you tried a smaller gap on your plugs?

[Luvin_it]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greg_04-SRT4

Have you tried a smaller gap on your plugs?

werd, sounds like it's not the EMS with those mods

what coil pack??

[never2muchboost]

does it happen with the meth off? thats alot of fluid there

[FraziersSRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greg_04-SRT4

Have you tried a smaller gap on your plugs?

Not yet,I was told to try gapping them at 28 but the problem seemed to have fixed itself tonight.I tried 2 60 rolls tonight and it hasnt broken up at all.

Quote: Originally Posted by Luvin_it

werd, sounds like it's not the EMS with those mods

what coil pack??

Im running the stock pack,not an MSD or anything else...

Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost

does it happen with the meth off? thats alot of fluid there

I haven't tried it with the meth off yet,but I dont think I will either since the car is tuned for meth right now,not sure what my AFR would be trying to go WOT without,dont really want to know either,lol.

[lilmike0450]

Just that m7 is prob all you would need for your power level. Atleast this is what I have been told.

[FraziersSRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilmike0450

Just that m7 is prob all you would need for your power level. Atleast this is what I have been told.

Some people have told me that as well,but others say running 2 nozzles is the way to go.I dont have any knock right now,im only going to eliminate the M5 if I have problems with tuning once I get back on the dyno on Friday.

[aaronneon@RealTune]

You dont need an ignition box for your setup.


Its either going to be the tune or plug gap IMO

[FraziersSRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

You dont need an ignition box for your setup.


Its either going to be the tune or plug gap IMO

Thanks Aaron,im pretty sure once I replaced the plugs and gapped them at 30 it cleared itself up.Ill know for sure tomorrow once im back on the dyno again.Ill keep you guys updated,thanks for the help!



-Frazier

[nutz]

aftermarket ignitions are a strange subject because they are not realy a power adder or a performance part (IMO) but as you pass 2 atm of pressure it acts as a resistor between the plug and weakens spark dramaticaly. add an over rich mixture to that and the flame propigation slows and robs you of power that is being wasted. using a good ignition can make tuning alot easier and prevent cold plugs from fouling. If you do decide to use one remember to switch the dwell wizard to cd ignition (i think its the second from the top of the list) or your ems box will melt, and select a good box 145mj or above or your just wasting money

[joe smalls]

had this stuttering problem too. replaced my 8.5 ig wires with some stock wires and haven't had the problem.