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Old 12-12-2006, 11:35 AM   #586 (permalink)
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thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make

both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics


man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.

if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.

Make sure you get ahold of me before you do the inline install

playing with ideas, i am ready to add the external pump, i have run the bulk head fitting and such. I have an extra pump canister and was toying with ideas.
have you ever tried an external 255 in the tank? I have -6AN fitting and the bottom can be threaded into the plastic and the top can use a small (like 1 inch) piece of -6an line to go to the bulk head fitting. eliminating the need for 5/16th line that keeps bursting.

any thoughts???

I'm not so sure using an external pump, internally, would be a very good idea. External pumps can use brushed motors which spark occasionaly .. might be a bad thing 'inside' the gas tank.

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thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make

both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics


man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.

if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.

Make sure you get ahold of me before you do the inline install

playing with ideas, i am ready to add the external pump, i have run the bulk head fitting and such. I have an extra pump canister and was toying with ideas.
have you ever tried an external 255 in the tank? I have -6AN fitting and the bottom can be threaded into the plastic and the top can use a small (like 1 inch) piece of -6an line to go to the bulk head fitting. eliminating the need for 5/16th line that keeps bursting.

any thoughts???

I'm not so sure using an external pump, internally, would be a very good idea. External pumps can use brushed motors which spark occasionaly .. might be a bad thing 'inside' the gas tank.

-D

the walbro say can be used as internal pump, they even sell a kit (as in pickup sock for the end of it)
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:43 PM   #588 (permalink)
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thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make

both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics


man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.

if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.

Make sure you get ahold of me before you do the inline install

playing with ideas, i am ready to add the external pump, i have run the bulk head fitting and such. I have an extra pump canister and was toying with ideas.
have you ever tried an external 255 in the tank? I have -6AN fitting and the bottom can be threaded into the plastic and the top can use a small (like 1 inch) piece of -6an line to go to the bulk head fitting. eliminating the need for 5/16th line that keeps bursting.

any thoughts???

I'm not so sure using an external pump, internally, would be a very good idea. External pumps can use brushed motors which spark occasionaly .. might be a bad thing 'inside' the gas tank.

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aeromotive's fuel pumps (external) are brushless motors and completely submersible. Although they need a very large pickup and feed lines (dash 10).
I am running 2 external aeromotive a100 pumps with an a1000 regulator mounted at the tank. All the fuel you will need up to 1400hp with both pumps running. (around 800 with one pump running).
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sorry to be a little OT and one of you guys can just PM me the reply....is there a "how-to" on the forums for the fuel pump rewire?

nevermind, found it.
HOW-TO: Fuel Pump Rewire
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sorry to be a little OT and one of you guys can just PM me the reply....is there a "how-to" on the forums for the fuel pump rewire?

nevermind, found it.
HOW-TO: Fuel Pump Rewire


save the headache and just order the FP rewire kit from summit, around 25.00 and everything you need. super easy takes about 45 min, or an hour and a half if you slack like i did.
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sorry to be a little OT and one of you guys can just PM me the reply....is there a "how-to" on the forums for the fuel pump rewire?

nevermind, found it.
HOW-TO: Fuel Pump Rewire


save the headache and just order the FP rewire kit from summit, around 25.00 and everything you need. super easy takes about 45 min, or an hour and a half if you slack like i did.

Is that http://www.summitracing.com/ ?

If so what did you search for to find it?
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hey guys is there a way to put a negative coolant enrichment? in

my idle is set to be very smooth e.g. mid 11s mid 12s a/f. i like the way the car idles this way but upon cold starts teh car tends to have a hard start because of the excess fuel

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hey guys is there a way to put a negative coolant enrichment? in

my idle is set to be very smooth e.g. mid 11s mid 12s a/f. i like the way the car idles this way but upon cold starts teh car tends to have a hard start because of the excess fuel

what do you think?

There is an "initial crank pulse table" that is used for startup. Thats what you would mess with. But I cant say much about it, b/c mine still isnt perfect yet either lol.

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well my coolant enrichment is already zero'd out.

the car has a hard time starting up on cold starts, i find my self holding the revs up for a few seconds, then again when i pump gass in the car i find myself doing the same things to keep it from stalling on me.
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Don't know what to tell you about the startup stuff, but this thread will tell you all about the fill-up issue.

Basically it comes down to the EMS not operating the fuel vapor recovery system the same way as the stock PCM. I did the mod discussed in there, and it definately fixed the fill-up issue. However, instead of capping the line off or leaving it open, I extended it and connected it to a nipple on my CAI. No rich problems, and it still works as intended.

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Don't know what to tell you about the startup stuff, but this thread will tell you all about the fill-up issue.

Basically it comes down to the EMS not operating the fuel vapor recovery system the same way as the stock PCM. I did the mod discussed in there, and it definately fixed the fill-up issue. However, instead of capping the line off or leaving it open, I extended it and connected it to a nipple on my CAI. No rich problems, and it still works as intended.

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This is the table you would need to mess with for hard starting. this table is only for Cranking Durration, not for idle. For a cold idle (warmup) you would need to adjust your start extra decay for the 1st predetermined durration (for explample the 1st 30 seconds after startup) and then your advanced idle setting for the rest of the warm up (example rpm offset vs start table, and warm up enrichement table)

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screenshot of the crank durration table:


This will adjust your cranking fuel. It does not do anything while the engine is running. Messing with this table long enough should get you to crank over and fire up right away. Then there are a few more tables to adjust for engine warmup and such.

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hello,
first off... awsome idea for this thread... LOVE IT. its getting me all hyped up!
Ok, as long as all goes well ill be purchasing a unit early next month, so i have a couple of EMS "noob" questions.

1. being that i need to get inspections done for NY, if i was to swap the stg1 or oem PCM in, can i leave the safc2 installed but have everything ZEROED out while on the ems... and switch to the tuned map on the safc2(inspection time) for the injectors?
i dont see y it would not work but.... i dont know if there would be a problem with the EMS.

2. is there some place i can download the tunning software? is it legal to? i would like to have time to play with it a lil. if aem does not like that sorry and NVM lol



i know i had an other question.... now i just dont remember.
also if anyof this was covered, sorry i read 10 pages and then noticed it was 40 sooo... yea lol

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ALSO: for someone that drives the car everyday to work.... would you recamend this as a "smart" upgrade choice?
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i remember the other question now!
ok this one is really noobish!

out of curiosity, does having an ems help with the cam lope?

because i notice the lope will be nice and full then out of nowhere the car goes from 14.0 -14.8 to 12 A/F at idle and the lope goes away for a lil then comes back?

why does it go really lean outta nowhere?
is it part of emmissions or suttin and the stg1 pcm?

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