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Old 04-20-2006, 04:16 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Naw, you can make it pass emisions, just have to mess around a bit and give a good tip
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Old 04-20-2006, 05:16 PM   #47 (permalink)
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big tips. here in cali, with smog dyno's, your not going to without knowing someone, and those someones are getting harder and harder to find
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tex
big tips. here in cali, with smog dyno's, your not going to without knowing someone, and those someones are getting harder and harder to find

I'm glad I live in the Carolinas. No emissions testing in SC (home #1) and GA (home #2). If one state starts, I'll just switch plates
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Yaaaaaaay for being in the Military too with out of state tags, no emmisions or saftey! Woot for me!
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Quote: Originally Posted by DAN_3KVR4_SRT4
Yaaaaaaay for being in the Military too with out of state tags, no emmisions or saftey! Woot for me!


Or Whoa!!! When your business partner does inspections
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:25 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Dan, I've decided to take the head, block, and tranny off the sale rack. I have a weird feeling we might need them


Good idea, but knock on wood.
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Alrighty, to get back on topic, does anyone have the part number to the GM boost solenoid this EMS supposedly works well with? And is anyone using the GM 3bar map instead of the AEM 5 bar? I think 3 bar is PLENTY for 100% of people using this.
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the factory map is capable of 20PSIg. thats enough for me at the moment!!!

hey tim, does the computer compensate if i were to increase boost, or do i have to retweak the fuel map everytime i tweak boost.

i know i can setup the autotune to constantly tweak itself, but im just wondering.

also, can i swap maps (race/pump) without killing the motor, reprogramming everything, and go again?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tex
the factory map is capable of 20PSIg. thats enough for me at the moment!!!

hey tim, does the computer compensate if i were to increase boost, or do i have to retweak the fuel map everytime i tweak boost


Unfortunately, I'm sure that you would have to retweak fuel map after upping boost levels.
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oh, and tim, here is the GM 3bar number 12223861 and you might want the GM weatherpak plug in for it, the harness number is 15305891
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ac-delco version (aka, can be had at kragens/pepboys/autozone/etc) number 213-1562 and harness number PT1035

what the heck, here is the whole list:

GM Style 3 Bar Pressure Sensors
Manufacturer Part Number
GM (old)* 16040749
AC Delco (old)* 213-101
GM (new)** 12223861
AC Delco (new)** 213-1562
MSD** 2313
MSD (compact)** 23131
Borg Warner** EC1678
NAPA CRB219481
Electromotive Engine Controls 71130
Holley 538-23

* denotes that the sensor is "old" style; this means that the keys for the harness are located on pin A toward pin B, and on pin C away from pin B.
** denotes that the sensor is "new" style; this means that the keys for the harness are located on pin B away from the clip and on pin A pointing away from pin B.
Others are unknown regarding keys

GM Style 3 Bar Pressure Sensor Harness
Manufacturer Part Number
GM (old)* 12085502
AC Delco (old) * PT123
NAPA* ECHEC14
Carquest * S-595
GM (new)** 15305891
AC Delco (new)** PT1035
GM (A/C)*** ??
Conduct Tite*** 85146
Calterm (A/C)*** 08826
Calterm (MAP) 08658

* denotes that the harness is intended for the "old" style MAP sensor; keyways are located on pin A toward pin B, and on pin C away from pin B.
** denotes that the harness is intended for the "new" style MAP sensor; this means that the keyways on the harness are located on pin B away from the clip and on pin A pointing away from pin B
*** denotes that the harness is intended for a GM A/C Pressure Switch; keyways are at ?? on pin?? and ?? on pin??
Others are unknown regarding keyways.

all taken from http://rdmelton.autoeducation.com/ca.../boostlog.html

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Quote: Originally Posted by Tex
ac-delco version (aka, can be had at kragens/pepboys/autozone/etc) number 213-1562 and harness number PT1035

what the heck, here is the whole list:

GM Style 3 Bar Pressure Sensors
Manufacturer Part Number
GM (old)* 16040749
AC Delco (old)* 213-101
GM (new)** 12223861
AC Delco (new)** 213-1562
MSD** 2313
MSD (compact)** 23131
Borg Warner** EC1678
NAPA CRB219481
Electromotive Engine Controls 71130
Holley 538-23

* denotes that the sensor is "old" style; this means that the keys for the harness are located on pin A toward pin B, and on pin C away from pin B.
** denotes that the sensor is "new" style; this means that the keys for the harness are located on pin B away from the clip and on pin A pointing away from pin B.
Others are unknown regarding keys

GM Style 3 Bar Pressure Sensor Harness
Manufacturer Part Number
GM (old)* 12085502
AC Delco (old) * PT123
NAPA* ECHEC14
Carquest * S-595
GM (new)** 15305891
AC Delco (new)** PT1035
GM (A/C)*** ??
Conduct Tite*** 85146
Calterm (A/C)*** 08826
Calterm (MAP) 08658

* denotes that the harness is intended for the "old" style MAP sensor; keyways are located on pin A toward pin B, and on pin C away from pin B.
** denotes that the harness is intended for the "new" style MAP sensor; this means that the keyways on the harness are located on pin B away from the clip and on pin A pointing away from pin B
*** denotes that the harness is intended for a GM A/C Pressure Switch; keyways are at ?? on pin?? and ?? on pin??
Others are unknown regarding keyways.

all taken from http://rdmelton.autoeducation.com/ca.../boostlog.html

Thanks Tex, this is exactly what this thread is for. Everyone with the EMS can help each other out. BTW, Tex I thought you were big turbo?
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:14 AM   #58 (permalink)
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No He Is On The Stock Turbo For Now. Plans On Going Stage 3 With Aem Maybe.
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Hate to continue the off-topic, but you can make switchable alternate fuel and boost maps right? Here in colorado we can drive by these emissions test vans and if our tailpipe emissions are low enough from their sensors twice in the year before emissions are due, then we just pay a few extra bucks when we get the car registered instead of going to one of those emissions test facilities that grabs info from our computer. Does anyone know how to "tune" for reduced emissions?
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planning on purchasing, when the kit comes with a base map more setup for my car.
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