im thinking of getting ahold of ptp's pressure mod and going that route. there is so much more boost here, i just cant use it. how frickin depressing is that. i see atleast 5-7 more psi. thats a lot of power just sitting there teasing me
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im thinking of getting ahold of ptp's pressure mod and going that route. there is so much more boost here, i just cant use it. how frickin depressing is that. i see atleast 5-7 more psi. thats a lot of power just sitting there teasing me
i hear ya on that... either route will basically do the same thing. as long as you can dial back enough fuel, that should be a workable route. I'm planning on mounting my RRFPR back by the gas tank so that in the engine bay it all looks stock
the only concern i have is flowing fuel through the little regulator. people have done it safely at 400hp, but i'm gonna run a modded pump assembly. bypassing the regulator all together MIGHT free up a LITTLE more fuel up top and allow a little more boost as well
have you also checked to make sure you're getting 58 psi fuel pressure all the way to redline? if you're dropping pressure, you might want to try the re-wire as well. just bigger gauge wire to help keep the current up
thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make
both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics
This Might Sound Like A Stupid Question From The FNG. But If You Have A Mopar Stage 2 Or 3 Turbo Upgrade With Toys And Buy The AEM EMS. Can you Still Use The Turbo Toys Functions With The New EMS? I Understand The Fact That The AEM EMS Is Set Up With The Factory SRT-4 Settings Until You Have The EMS Tuned. I Called And Spoke With A Rep. At AEM And He Was Unable To Answer My Question If Anyone Could Help Me Out With This I Would Appreciate It.
Last edited by HybridKid : 11-13-2006 at 09:21 PM.
The 'Turbo Toy' functions are functions inside Mopar's Staged ECUs. But you can use the switches to be 'inputs' you can use to activate the EMS to do certain things, alternate fuel maps, 2step rev limiter, traction control etc. However, there is no out of the box way to utilize the switches as they come wired on the staged kits. They can be used with a bit of rewiring and some configuration as well.
More to the point of your questions there is no direct built-in exact emulation of the Toys functionality in the AEM EMS.
More noteably, your comment about the 'factory srt-4 settings' being in the EMS until you get it tuned is a bit um ... well its a bit of a stretch .. if the EMS was tuned to even close to Dodge's 'factory' settings it would be even more of an awesome product. The AEM EMS has a 'base configuration' you load from cdrom into the unit that makes the car run... really not very much more than that. It runs VERY RICH and timing isnt that close, but it is mostly SAFE. This config is simply a good starting point to get you TO the shop you will be tuning at. If the car is stock you will have to worry about running the rich condition for too long cause it will plug the cat then you get the old banana in the tail pipe syndrom ... it will idle but you wont be going anyplace.
yeah, dont think aem did ANY work on cold tuning, now that it has gotten cold mine does something similar, you can alwasy adjust the idle rpm for temp offset, and add fuel for cold startup, but I havent had much luck messing with it, idle is probably one of the most difficult things to fine tune in my experiance. Cruise and WOT are simple in comparison, so I just have been patient with it and manually give it some more gas to keep the revs up for about a minute when its really cold out.
thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make
both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics
man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.
if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.
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thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make
both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics
man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.
if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.
Make sure you get ahold of me before you do the inline install
Last edited by aaronneon@RealTune : 12-08-2006 at 10:16 AM.
WOW great thread i just read all 580+ posts and tons of good info. Thanks for putting this all together for the forums guys. And not just saying "get a better tuner" Aaron!!!! lol
thats a very interesting idea. i wonder how much of a difference it will make
both the fuel restriction (aka spoolboy) mod and the fuel pump rewire have been used to combat running lean up top. if you do the restriction mod, you HAVE to run an aftermarket regulator/ return line, but it uses -6 line from th pump itself to the stock fuel line, which cuts out the restriction in the stock FPR. as for the stock look (i'm going for the same thing being in cali as well) that can make it difficult, but that's why i want to mount it by the tank. when i get it all figured out, and actually installed i'll take pics
man i need to take some pictures, i mounted my regulator under the stock airbox, granted the bottom of the box is cut off. I did the spoolboy mod, pump rewire, 255 in tank, -6an to the rail. now adding a inline 255 for a bit more play room with fuel. car looks stock under the hood though. i will try to get some shots this weekend.
if you look at the stock pump regulator you will see the restriction, it tapers to 1/8th inch. i feel much better with -6AN.
Make sure you get ahold of me before you do the inline install
playing with ideas, i am ready to add the external pump, i have run the bulk head fitting and such. I have an extra pump canister and was toying with ideas.
have you ever tried an external 255 in the tank? I have -6AN fitting and the bottom can be threaded into the plastic and the top can use a small (like 1 inch) piece of -6an line to go to the bulk head fitting. eliminating the need for 5/16th line that keeps bursting.
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