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Old 07-21-2009, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default update AEM cuts out at 5100 rpm need help!!

My car cuts out at 5100 95% of the time.

It will do it in 1st 2nd 3rd and neutral(havent tried in 4th or 5th)

2 step is off, and rev limiter is set to 7000, and im no where near hitting my boost cut.

It is not a soft cut whatso ever. It feels like it cuts ignition totally on the car.
it can throw u back in the seat when it cuts out.

Car feels great and strong up to that point

I have changed my spark plugs and coil same thing.

Funny part is is that when it does it aem program locks up for a couple seconds. all the gauges stay the same as they were before 5100 rpms then car acts like its in some sort of limp mode... it acts werid, it will not rev or run after this... but if i switch off the key and back on the car is back to normal...but sometimes i can rev through it so its odd.


something that may help you diagnose the issue is...

I can sit and rev the car it will get to 5100 and if i hold it for a second it will go past it to my rev limiter set at 7000, while reving it past 5100 the aem program says offline, resetablished connection, online, does that a few times....





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Well when you find out what causes this let me know... i have fought it all last year..

are you running the wot box by chance?

I had a video loaded up on what it was doing... it would get to around 4800 and just kick and buck and eventually shut off... and the aem screen would freeze...
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Send me a copy of your .cal file, and I'll take a look to see if there's something screwy looking.

Boostjunkyracing@yahoo.com

Also, if you have some logs of when this is happening, send them my way!

One other thing, check out this link. It could be that the EMS is not displaying RPMs above 5k due to a corrupt file: PC logging at high RPM fix

Follow the instructions on that page, and see if you are able to log RPMs above 5k.
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chuck he sounds like he is having the same issues i was having... so if you figure it out let me know... i eventually sent my aem back in to get looked at...
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chuck he sounds like he is having the same issues i was having... so if you figure it out let me know... i eventually sent my aem back in to get looked at...

what did they say when your box went back?
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chuck he sounds like he is having the same issues i was having... so if you figure it out let me know... i eventually sent my aem back in to get looked at...

Man, I didn't know you were having this issue, too! Didn't Jay tune it in for ya? Or did it start having the issue afterward?

I thought you had it all worked out!
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what did they say when your box went back?

they replaced a circuit board in the ems but i dont believe that was the issue... i had cross a wire up... and did it in...

but the odd thing is if you go and put your stock ecu back in your car will not do what it is doing with the ems.... that is what i told aem and they said that the ems has a very low tolerance for issues..

i said well that makes no sense considering my stock ecu will start and rev past 5000 rpms...

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Man, I didn't know you were having this issue, too! Didn't Jay tune it in for ya? Or did it start having the issue afterward?

I thought you had it all worked out!

this started occuring during jay tuning it... and then i replaced the tps and wiring and it did fine for along time.. so we finished the tune and then near the end before i ordered my tranny i could just rev the car in the shop and it would die at 4800 rpms... it even got to the point where the car would not shut off... it was like i was on the two step at 1200 rpms and i could not get it to shut off with the key... i had to unhook the battery..
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they replaced a circuit board in the ems but i dont believe that was the issue... i had cross a wire up... and did it in...

but the odd thing is if you go and put your stock ecu back in your car will not do what it is doing with the ems.... that is what i told aem and they said that the ems has a very low tolerance for issues..

i said well that makes no sense considering my stock ecu will start and rev past 5000 rpms...



this started occuring during jay tuning it... and then i replaced the tps and wiring and it did fine for along time.. so we finished the tune and then near the end before i ordered my tranny i could just rev the car in the shop and it would die at 4800 rpms... it even got to the point where the car would not shut off... it was like i was on the two step at 1200 rpms and i could not get it to shut off with the key... i had to unhook the battery..

WTFBBQ?

You're scaring me with these AEM EMS issues you've been having! I'm knocking on wood, as mine has treated me well, so far!
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WTFBBQ?

You're scaring me with these AEM EMS issues you've been having! I'm knocking on wood, as mine has treated me well, so far!

Well i have been wondering now if the wot box wasnt my issue... but i will see when i put it back together... mainly because i have seen several threads of throwing codes with the wot box... and i am wondering if mine since i didnt keep it updated if it was messing with the cam sensor and crank sensor...

meaning that there is only 3 sensors that will shut a car down... cam, crank, and tps sensor... and the wot box hooks to all of them but the crank... but it does connect to the coilpack..

because even my two step on my aem was acting differently before i sent in the aem...

I am going to change my cam and crank sensors with new ones when i go back together... so i know i am starting fresh with all new sensors..
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Send me a copy of your .cal file, and I'll take a look to see if there's something screwy looking.

Boostjunkyracing@yahoo.com

Also, if you have some logs of when this is happening, send them my way!

One other thing, check out this link. It could be that the EMS is not displaying RPMs above 5k due to a corrupt file: PC logging at high RPM fix

Follow the instructions on that page, and see if you are able to log RPMs above 5k.

ok i replaced that file.... how do i log? im fairly new at the functions... this problem started happening at the end of my second day of proffesional tuning.

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they replaced a circuit board in the ems but i dont believe that was the issue... i had cross a wire up... and did it in...

but the odd thing is if you go and put your stock ecu back in your car will not do what it is doing with the ems.... that is what i told aem and they said that the ems has a very low tolerance for issues..

i said well that makes no sense considering my stock ecu will start and rev past 5000 rpms...



this started occuring during jay tuning it... and then i replaced the tps and wiring and it did fine for along time.. so we finished the tune and then near the end before i ordered my tranny i could just rev the car in the shop and it would die at 4800 rpms... it even got to the point where the car would not shut off... it was like i was on the two step at 1200 rpms and i could not get it to shut off with the key... i had to unhook the battery..

so the new board didnt fix the issue?
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so the new board didnt fix the issue?

I am not sure ever since the sent it back my car has been down waiting on the auto tranny...

Are you running the wot box?
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ok i replaced that file.... how do i log? im fairly new at the functions... this problem started happening at the end of my second day of proffesional tuning.

To log, just have your laptop in the car connected and interfaced with the EMS. Then, click on templates and click on "tuning". That will log some of the more important parameters that I'd like to see.

To start logging, press F6, and to stop, hit F6 again. Then save the log file and send it to me in an E-Mail.
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I am not sure ever since the sent it back my car has been down waiting on the auto tranny...

Are you running the wot box?

no i am not.
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no i am not.

ok well that helps me eliminate my theory.. so back to square one...
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