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Old 10-25-2007, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, help me out here, I've roll raced for years, but only took my Stage 3 to the track 3-4 times now, all in the last month, here's my best runs:

60' = 2.46
330' = 6.34
1/8th ET = 9.27
1/8th MPH = 89.04
1000 ET = 11.66
1/4 ET = 13.64
1/4 MPH = 117.07

60' = 2.34
330' = 6.226
1/8th ET = 9.18
1/8th MPH = 88.50
1000 ET = 11.59
1/4 ET = 13.587
1/4 MPH = 117.13

I don't mind being a shitty drag racer, but I'm wondering if my trap speeds would be higher if I was more aggressive in 1st and 2nd gear. Does the fact that I'm gaining 28-29mph in back half indicate that I could be seeing higher traps? I've seen guys running 91-92mph through the 1/8th finish with traps a lot lower than 117.

I haven't found the sweet spot between putting the power down in first and second, and wheel hopping the bitch, at least not yet, but I'm a little disappointed in the trap speeds given the mods the car has on it.

The runs above were with HOM, DAB2, and the car has a 60mm TB, ported Stage 3 turbo, ported turbo mani, AGP Stage 3 WGA (set at 25psi), ported intake mani, ED Beast FMIC, 3" O2, 3" downpipe with a QTEC cutout wide open. Seems like some plain Stage 3 guys are getting 117 on HOM, so with the port work, FMIC, TB, etc., I would have thought I'd be trapping higher. Am I that bad that I can't even drive to a decent trap speed?
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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to be honest u cannot get ur car off the line and dont know how to feather the gas through second on street tires. U need slicks and launch at 4500 with solid motor mount and a tranny mount and those times will be 12.5 and down with that trap speed. My buddy went 12.38@110 on slicks on the stock turbo the other day. U have the power u just need to harness it....... jus my $.02
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Thanks, I know my technique needs work, but it's compounded by the fact that I was running on stock rims with BFG G-Force Sports, not even the KDW's, until last week. Once I got the new rubber, some 235/40/17 Azenis RT615's, I developed a boost leak... it's always one thing after another you know?

I'm sure I need to give it more go juice in 1st and 2nd, but what I'm wondering is, if I do, will that pick up my trap speeds, or just my ET? Does the 28-29mph in the back half indicate the traps would be higher if I got through the front 1/8th at a higher speed?
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With your trap you should be in mid to low 12s all you need is some slicks...
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the could be a little higher. I am hitting the 1/8 mile at 98-100 and trapping 124-126 so I am picking up around 26 in the back half. It jus seems like u could work on ur speeds in the first 8th a little. Like I said my buddy went 12.3@110 and ur hitting the traps 7 mph faster. I think u just need slicks and WOT shift all the gears and hang on to ur seat for possible 11's!
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just work on your 60' dude.. thats whats killin you. And get some slicks, then practice practice practice. goodluck
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Thanks for the tips guys, I already have some solutions in mind. First up I have to fix my boost leak, then I can start learning the car a bit more.

Second, while I know hardware is no substitute for talent, I did buy the NDE TCS (not installed yet) and I'm going to get the Bwoody h-brace and traction bars. I have some revitup traction bars on it now, but the passenger side is slamming my hotside hardpipe whenever I get wheel hop and it's yanking my coupler loose, which is where the boost leak is.

When I get the hardware, I'm sure I'll see better ETs, but I'm most curious about what my trap speeds will be at that point...
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Quote: Originally Posted by srt4evah
Thanks, I know my technique needs work, but it's compounded by the fact that I was running on stock rims with BFG G-Force Sports, not even the KDW's, until last week. Once I got the new rubber, some 235/40/17 Azenis RT615's, I developed a boost leak... it's always one thing after another you know?

I'm sure I need to give it more go juice in 1st and 2nd, but what I'm wondering is, if I do, will that pick up my trap speeds, or just my ET? Does the 28-29mph in the back half indicate the traps would be higher if I got through the front 1/8th at a higher speed?

No... less agressive in 1st and 2nd. The more aggressixve you get the more wheel spin your gonna get....Jus work on That 60 and youll be a healthy 12 sec. car...
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Spinning in first and 2nd is bringing your 1/8th trap down by about 5-6MPH trust me on this one, I've done it many times on street tires. Personally I think with traction your car will trap 94-95 in the 1/8th and then pick up 27MPH from that point on because you're already travelling 7MPH faster it wont be 29MPH.

With slicks, good prep and a good driver I think you're in the 11's every pass with a mid 11 not out of the question, oh and no need to powershift, 122MPH is enough for mid 11's without powershifting.
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yeah with your mods i would think that you would trap higher. i went yesterday and had similar trap speed with lot less mods on street tires.

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60' = 2.26
330' = 5.8
1/8th ET = 8.6
1/8th MPH = 89.6
1000 ET = 10.9
1/4 ET = 12.9
1/4 MPH = 117.1
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You have the mph of a 11.7 car just about. But your 60 foot is God awful. I might be mistaken, but I was allways under the impression that spinning through any gears created higher mph in the top end when you go through the traps because your speedo gets such a big kick in the ass once you catch traction.

The car I race has a best of

60' 1.89
12.37 at 111.56

It has trapped 112 but spun like crazy and cracked of a 12.8.

my .02 apperently someone needs to correct me.
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With slicks and a 5 grand clutch drop launch your an 11 second car!!! If you plan on going to the track alot slicks are the best investment you can make!
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