Are high 12's Acheivable Without Slicks or Drag Radials?
I am currently almost stock but am going to get my car tuned professionally within the next few weeks and was going to try to hit the 300whp mark with bolt ons, larger injectors, map clamp, 22 pounds of boost etc... If I am around 300whp, are high 12's acheivable without running racing slicks or DR's? I might eventually run them, but for right now I am gong to try out some Toyo Proxes T1r's and see how they do for me. I want to keep it a reliable daily driver that can still tear it up at the track without having to swap the front tires with slicks every time.
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Fastest time to date: 13.5 @ 107.5mph with 110 Octane Sonoco Race Gas on Toyo Proxes T1R's
Actually it depends a lot more on your 60 ft. than your trap speed. I ran a 13.4 on street tires with just stage 2 no toys with a 2.1 60! I was putting maybe 250 to the wheels at that time. It'll make things a whole lot easier if you just get sticky tires. I ran a 12.7 (S3) on street tires and as soon as I threw slicks into the mix I ran a best of 11.88
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Last edited by bluebeast : 04-15-2008 at 12:33 PM.
Actually it depends a lot more on your 60 ft. than your trap speed. I ran a 13.4 on street tires with just stage 2 no toys with a 2.1 60! I was putting maybe 250 to the wheels at that time. It'll make things a whole lot easier if you just get sticky tires. I ran a 12.7 on street tires and as soon as I threw slicks into the mix I ran a best of 11.88
That's really good! I just want to be able to get a 13.9. Hopefully the Toyo Proxes T1r's will help me shave a half second off the time. I am shooting for a 1.9 to 2.0 60 foot time instead of a 2.2 to 2.3.
I would guess a 2.1 60' and 350 or so whp would get me high 12's a 112-115.
we'll see when I put the new turbo on.
How much of a difference does an open dump make on these cars? I am currently running the stock exhaust but I was wondering if it would make a bigger difference over a 3 inch exhaust.
Actually it depends a lot more on your 60 ft. than your trap speed. I ran a 13.4 on street tires with just stage 2 no toys with a 2.1 60! I was putting maybe 250 to the wheels at that time. It'll make things a whole lot easier if you just get sticky tires. I ran a 12.7 on street tires and as soon as I threw slicks into the mix I ran a best of 11.88
I agree, I was just saying that even though you may 60ft a 2.0, you're going to need some speed to get you down the track, i've personally never seen a 12 on street tires with a trap lower than 108MPH.
I agree, I was just saying that even though you may 60ft a 2.0, you're going to need some speed to get you down the track, i've personally never seen a 12 on street tires with a trap lower than 108MPH.
Your probably right my man. We all know these cars dont have a street tire friendly launch And it'll take some power to do
12s on em.. As far as the question about the open exhaust. I've heard of people dynoing 10 wheel HP with the dump open and it does allow the turbo to spool up a little faster. The down side to the open downpipe is if you dont have a remote opener, you have to crawl under the car to open it. Thats not cool for stop light shoot-outs.
Your probably right my man. We all know these cars dont have a street tire friendly launch And it'll take some power to do
12s on em.. As far as the question about the open exhaust. I've heard of people dynoing 10 wheel HP with the dump open and it does allow the turbo to spool up a little faster. The down side to the open downpipe is if you dont have a remote opener, you have to crawl under the car to open it. Thats not cool for stop light shoot-outs.
That would be nice to have the needswings downpipe with electric cutout. The only thing is it's probably loud as hell on the street and cops wouldn't like it too well. If you are like me, you probably want the power whenever you need it. I may just go with a 3" turboback exhaust instead.
That would be nice to have the needswings downpipe with electric cutout. The only thing is it's probably loud as hell on the street and cops wouldn't like it too well. If you are like me, you probably want the power whenever you need it. I may just go with a 3" turboback exhaust instead.
Good idea...
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I may get my car tuned for now with just a 3" downpipe and stock exhaust, so what would be the best catback exhaust to run for overall sound and performance?
I wouldn't do the catback if your going to go 3 inch turbo back later down the line. It'll just be extra expense. Either run the 3 inch needswings downpipe with cutout. or just save up for the 3 inch. A cat back and the downpipe will cost you about the same as a 3 inch turbo back.
Superfast-4 ran a 12.9@117 on street tires. Not too much to brag about but its obviously an 11 sec car on slicks. He just wanted a clean run to see what he would trap. He was running 225 REO1's and cut a 2.1 short time I'm pretty sure.
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Superfast-4 ran a 12.9@117 on street tires. Not too much to brag about but its obviously an 11 sec car on slicks. He just wanted a clean run to see what he would trap. He was running 225 REO1's and cut a 2.1 short time I'm pretty sure.
It seems like he should be able to do a lot better than that with street tires. I would have thought at least mid 12's with street tires.
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