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Old 10-12-2007, 02:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My PT GT is for sale, but I have been having to drop the price to get any interest. I have most of the parts (but never installed) to make something out of it. I have sold my srt, and was planning on getting a road/track rat srt in the spring of 2008. It has about 60K miles. I have a daily SUV, so this car will be a backup/fun car/track only type of car.

So, my question is this:
should I sell the car for its really low price (8K or so) and buy a st3 srt(for 12ish)?

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spend more money to get the PT to be the srt that I want, given I am a few (4k) ahead of the game.

Long question is, will the modern performance manifold and stage1 with injectors (and all the other regular pt mods - intake/exhaust) do?

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sell the pt gt and get a s3 srt-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sell the pt gt and get a s3 srt-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sell the PT. Its slush box will just fail on you. Get an SRT and have at it.
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Dump the PT Boat and Go Crazy in the SRT - IMO.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by gamman3
So, my question is this:
should I sell the car for its really low price (8K or so) and buy a st3 srt(for 12ish)?

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spend more money to get the PT to be the srt that I want, given I am a few (4k) ahead of the game.

It really depends on your definition of fun and what you out of the car. If you are after performance over all other considerations, go for the SRT St3, it will be ready for the track long before the cruiser ever is. Less time and money invested for the performance return. The GT cruiser is playing catch up ball in the performance department, a less aerodynamic shape that not only weighs more but carries many of those extra pounds well above center mass.

On the other hand, nothing beats a paneled cruiser that has been dropped and chopped and can run low 13's, which is my idea of fun and what I am working for on my GT.
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I guess you havent seen some of the PT that are running under 13 seconds and most of them are fully loaded too. Where as most of the fast srt4 are semi stripped down, makes you think a bit about the wieght savings...
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Haha, Total Sleeper is in the 11's and about as far from stripped down as it gets.
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mine is a stick, but stick in ptgt world is 350, not the 850 in the srt. Anyway, I want to roadrace more in 2008, and the extra heft sure makes a difference, I could pass m3's (2003+) with my stage1 srt's, which I shouldn't have been able to do (based on paper racing). Trouble is, the fast PT's are not daily drivers (maybe some are), but I can't handle the level of detail that it needs.
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Quote: Originally Posted by gamman3
mine is a stick, but stick in ptgt world is 350, not the 850 in the srt. Anyway, I want to roadrace more in 2008, and the extra heft sure makes a difference, I could pass m3's (2003+) with my stage1 srt's, which I shouldn't have been able to do (based on paper racing). Trouble is, the fast PT's are not daily drivers (maybe some are), but I can't handle the level of detail that it needs.

Few things:
Manual in a pt gt is a Getrag 288 not a Chrysler whatever.
Fast daily driven pt gts are out there but much less easily spotted than SRTs.
"Level of detail that it needs" ? Mine is no slouch and I turn the key and go, no extra maintenance whatsoever.

Now if you are out after performance no matter what. Go with the SRT.
If you wanna be the wolf in sheep's clothing, the pt gt is it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by QcRoman
Fast daily driven pt gts are out there but much less easily spotted than SRTs... If you wanna be the wolf in sheep's clothing, the pt gt is it.

Exactly. Many fast Cruisers do not look fast, especially daily drivers. After removing every GT identifier from my Cruiser it looks like a typical grocery getting car, (The fugly spoiler goes in November); until the hammer falls that is. IMO the GT Cruiser is one the best American made sleepers ever. Nothing beats watching the sneer of a PT naysayer growing steadily smaller in the rear view mirror, especially if the victim has a passenger to tell the tale. I beat my son who had bragged about his Mustang GT, and he still hears it about losing to a PT from his friends months later. Priceless.
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I just have a hard time selling my cruiser for about a 4-6K discount off an srt. I really want to take it to the track and pass the M3's. My friends think I am retarded (and logically quite right) to supe up a cruiser to make it faster on a road course than an e46 M3, but that is my goal. I am investigating on what type of cheaper turbo I can buy to get me there.
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Quote: Originally Posted by QcRoman
Quote: Originally Posted by gamman3
mine is a stick, but stick in ptgt world is 350, not the 850 in the srt. Anyway, I want to roadrace more in 2008, and the extra heft sure makes a difference, I could pass m3's (2003+) with my stage1 srt's, which I shouldn't have been able to do (based on paper racing). Trouble is, the fast PT's are not daily drivers (maybe some are), but I can't handle the level of detail that it needs.

Few things:
Manual in a pt gt is a Getrag 288 not a Chrysler whatever.
Fast daily driven pt gts are out there but much less easily spotted than SRTs.
"Level of detail that it needs" ? Mine is no slouch and I turn the key and go, no extra maintenance whatsoever.

Now if you are out after performance no matter what. Go with the SRT.
If you wanna be the wolf in sheep's clothing, the pt gt is it. :thumbsup
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^ he has a good point, the pt is a great sleeper, thats why I got one, I really don't think their very behind in the performance department, but for racing I wouldn't waste the time in the pt's suspension that your going to have to do, to make it handle like the srt-4 with basic suspension.........
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Go SRT4 I love my SRT4 race car and it is very compative and relable trimed down to 2500 lbs S3 turbo and nothing other than suspension I can turn a 1 min 32 sec around Mosport and atke the camber out and run 11s on the drag strip this is by far the best car I have owned

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With only K & N , air box mods, plus composite intake, my heavy PT GT 5-speed ran 14.6 @ 97. With stage 3 coilovers on full soft and Mopar swaybars(rubber bushings for good ride), it corners flat and out handles many ricers on track days; on stock tires! With the sways, cornering is very close to neutral. Anybody that rides or drives my car, is truly amazed at its capabilities.
The best part is the cops don't give me a second look no matter what speed I'm driving, which is usually well over the limit-I love it!

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