To the designer ( or any who would know ) :
Is it possible that a future scangauge version might offer an option that would allow the analog inputs to be 0-5v outputs that are assignable to any of the parameters ? this would be very usefull to those of us that are struggling to datalog knock , advance , & other ecu data .
Also , if assigned to boost , it could command a water/meth setup .
With a few adjustments like range , slope , and possibly an adjustable "window switch" , you could control all sorts of equipment like nitrous , intercooler sprayer , boost solinoids , ect .
I have a scangauge pro , but I would instantly buy another if this was possible and available .
To the designer ( or any who would know ) :
Is it possible that a future scangauge version might offer an option that would allow the analog inputs to be 0-5v outputs that are assignable to any of the parameters ? this would be very usefull to those of us that are struggling to datalog knock , advance , & other ecu data .
Also , if assigned to boost , it could command a water/meth setup .
With a few adjustments like range , slope , and possibly an adjustable "window switch" , you could control all sorts of equipment like nitrous , intercooler sprayer , boost solinoids , ect .
I have a scangauge pro , but I would instantly buy another if this was possible and available .
Currently we do have a relay output module that is controlled by the OBD2 data or analog inputs. Check out our website here:
Excellent ! I was not aware of this .
So I guess I need to send in my guage for an update to take advantage of this ? I have old "pro" version & it does not have the user configurable warning lights , is this what you mean by annunciator ?
Thanks for supporting our car so well .
Todd regarding this output module. One or two OBDII parameters can be set to trigger the relay, or just one only? Same question but variation, how about as for one OBDII parameter and one analog input?
With regards to this and the dual gauge display setup and a hypothetical setup, I could have one fuel pressure sensor and one nitrous pressure on the second gauge hooked up to analog one and two respectively. I could hook up this module to to this gauge and have the parameters in here monitored and trigger a relay to cut nitrous if one or both are not meeting a certain value I determine in the gauge setup?
Take this further, I have above on the second but I also want to have a custom IC sprayer setup controlled using OBDII parameters (not unlike Mopar S2/3 toys sprayers) from the first/primary gauge. With a second module wired into the first gauge I could have a semi-intelligent IC water spray controller, correct. I could also wire in two more analog inputs to this first gauge.
If I have the Zeitronix A/F setup with options, I can have the analog 0-5 out of the Zeitronix controller wired into the first gauge for A/F and the value of this can be used by the controller if I want to do something other then an IC sprayer. For example I would like the module to work using A/F and EGT and allow for raised boost if A/F and EGT are below XXX?
If I already have the EGT option for the Zeitronix and its hooked up is there a way for the Aeroforce and the Zeitronix to share the output of the existing probe hooked up to the Zeitronix?
Multi-question within one main question, the shift light option of each gauge in a duel gauge setup can be setup independently and be setup to be triggered by one of the inputs as well........can these be setup to be activated by the module(s). It would be neat to have the modules signal activation to the relay function the lights. Or would it be that you would use the same parameters for the module duplicated in the setup of the shift lights?
Sorry for the long post but I just stumbled across this when researching another duel gauge purchase and I was intrigued but some possibilities of the module and the gauge and some sensors.
Todd regarding this output module. One or two OBDII parameters can be set to trigger the relay, or just one only? Same question but variation, how about as for one OBDII parameter and one analog input?
With regards to this and the dual gauge display setup and a hypothetical setup, I could have one fuel pressure sensor and one nitrous pressure on the second gauge hooked up to analog one and two respectively. I could hook up this module to to this gauge and have the parameters in here monitored and trigger a relay to cut nitrous if one or both are not meeting a certain value I determine in the gauge setup?
Take this further, I have above on the second but I also want to have a custom IC sprayer setup controlled using OBDII parameters (not unlike Mopar S2/3 toys sprayers) from the first/primary gauge. With a second module wired into the first gauge I could have a semi-intelligent IC water spray controller, correct. I could also wire in two more analog inputs to this first gauge.
If I have the Zeitronix A/F setup with options, I can have the analog 0-5 out of the Zeitronix controller wired into the first gauge for A/F and the value of this can be used by the controller if I want to do something other then an IC sprayer. For example I would like the module to work using A/F and EGT and allow for raised boost if A/F and EGT are below XXX?
If I already have the EGT option for the Zeitronix and its hooked up is there a way for the Aeroforce and the Zeitronix to share the output of the existing probe hooked up to the Zeitronix?
Multi-question within one main question, the shift light option of each gauge in a duel gauge setup can be setup independently and be setup to be triggered by one of the inputs as well........can these be setup to be activated by the module(s). It would be neat to have the modules signal activation to the relay function the lights. Or would it be that you would use the same parameters for the module duplicated in the setup of the shift lights?
Sorry for the long post but I just stumbled across this when researching another duel gauge purchase and I was intrigued but some possibilities of the module and the gauge and some sensors.
Ok, let's see if I can tackle this...
The current Interceptor gauge can only monitor one parameter, whether it's an OBD2 or analog input, to either control the output relay or warning lights. The warning lights, which are also called the shift lights, and the output module are tied together. Whatever you set to trigger the warning lights will also trigger the output module.
For the hypothetical scenario, you would have to have a dual set of gauges, and connect the fuel pressure to one, and the nitrous sensor to the other so that you could monitor both, and then wire these outputs in series so that if either drops out your system is shut down. OR, you can use our new
Analogic gauge, which has 4 analog inputs plus 2 dedicated EGT inputs. This does have the ability to monitor 2 inputs and use an "and/or" algorithm to trigger it's relay output. This gauge is currently being tested in prototype form but will be available in about a month.
I don't fully understand the IC sprayer scenario, but keep in mind that each gauge only has one output. You can connect 2 analog inputs to each Interceptor gauge.
If the Zietronix has a scaled analog out for the EGT, you could run this to the Interceptor. If you use our T/C amplifier, which converts the low level output of the EGT to a 0-5v signal, you could run this to both the Interceptor and Zietronix. The Analogic has dedicated EGT inputs so you wouldn't need the T/C amp, but I'm not sure you'd want to run the raw EGT output to two different devices.
I think I answered you last question above, the warning lights and output module are tied together.
OK, so I can get one interceptor gauge now and add the analog gauge later. At a later time with the analog gauge I can get closer to what I'm thinking about.
So with one gauge I can have a fuel pressure sensor hooked up as an analog input and also monitor OBDII parameters.
By setting up a warning trigger in the Interceptor I can do it by using one analog input OR one monitored OBDII parameter, but not both OR two OBDII parameters at the same time. This ODBII parameter or analog input hooked up to the gauge and being monitored for the trigger will be tied to the shift/warning light on the gauge.
The module is hooked up to the gauge and is to control a single relay. Can 2 relays be hooked up in series to be controlled by the module?
I'm reviewing the Zetitronix manual after posting this. I do now that the Zeitronix has a K type thermocouple probe hooked up directly to it though. So I'm not sure I want to use up a spare 0-5 input to the Zeitronix for the EGT........I need to read some more and maybe draw things on paper to get a better visual or what I'm thinking about and how to go best about doing it.
The Analogic gauge is not ready for prime time yet, so I think I'll get the Interceptor, fuel pressure sensor, and the module for now. When the Analogic gauge comes out or is otherwise available for purchase, I'll get them as well as the nitrous pressure sensor you can let me know AND I'll keep an eye out for release info.
Order the gauge and the other stuff from Aaron........he has access to and the capabilities to take an order for the module, the sensor as well as the Interceptor itself, correct?
OK, so I can get one interceptor gauge now and add the analog gauge later. At a later time with the analog gauge I can get closer to what I'm thinking about. YES
So with one gauge I can have a fuel pressure sensor hooked up as an analog input and also monitor OBDII parameters. YES
By setting up a warning trigger in the Interceptor I can do it by using one analog input OR one monitored OBDII parameter, but not both OR two OBDII parameters at the same time. This ODBII parameter or analog input hooked up to the gauge and being monitored for the trigger will be tied to the shift/warning light on the gauge. YES
The module is hooked up to the gauge and is to control a single relay. Can 2 relays be hooked up in series to be controlled by the module? The output module comes with relay (although you can use your own if you want). The module has more than enough current capacity to activate a 40A automotive relay but I need to look into whether it can support
I'm reviewing the Zetitronix manual after posting this. I do now that the Zeitronix has a K type thermocouple probe hooked up directly to it though. So I'm not sure I want to use up a spare 0-5 input to the Zeitronix for the EGT........I need to read some more and maybe draw things on paper to get a better visual or what I'm thinking about and how to go best about doing it.
The Analogic gauge is not ready for prime time yet, so I think I'll get the Interceptor, fuel pressure sensor, and the module for now. When the Analogic gauge comes out or is otherwise available for purchase, I'll get them as well as the nitrous pressure sensor you can let me know AND I'll keep an eye out for release info.
Order the gauge and the other stuff from Aaron........he has access to and the capabilities to take an order for the module, the sensor as well as the Interceptor itself, correct?
YES
Everything else is correct. I'll post here as well as on our tech forum and website when the Analogic is available. Thanks!
I concur, thanks for taking the time to help with this.
I have the Zeitronix manual in PDF format open on one monitor but I got side tracked at looking at other things happening on the other monitors. I'll get to reviewing things and follow up if have additional questions.
Does the Aeroforce can send a 0-5v output matching a specific output ?
Example:
0v = 0 KR
1v = 1.0 KR
2v = 2.0 KR
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If yes, how many of these channels can be sent at the same time ? The refresh rate would be the same has the gauge ?
thanks
Disclaimer : I dont represent vendor , just answering a question .
1. The scangauge can be setup to trigger a relay based on when a certain trigger-point has been reached . Much the same way you would setup the shift-lights based on RPM , you can hook up a relay to close its contacts at a RPM that you decide . Or you can trigger the relay at a certain boost level instead . Its basically a on or off affair . To use your example , you could set it to trigger a relay at a certain knock retard amount or higher .
2. Just one on the scangauge , it is tied to the warning lights . Im assuming they will still lightup when threshold is reached , but I am guessing on this .
The Analogic looks promising , But I would also like to Find a way to convert the advanced OBD-II data into 0-5v signal .
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Analog outs , instead of ins ???
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