Molé OFFICIAL BWS discussion/info thread!!!! - Page 5 - SRT Forums

mole' · 04-20-2012, 11:06 AM

that sucks

Rhunter · 04-20-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

Hell ya my car is alive. I was running super rich since I did the fpr. Finally had some time to do some logs and send it to duster. I went from a/f in the sub 10 leaning up to 10.7. To. 12.5 riching up to 11.9. I did spin just a hair. And I'm hitting 24 for just moment (boost box Set for 23) and im hold 20 at 6k. Pull a lot better. Timing still low 29-32.
Can't wait to get back to the track!

You call that low?

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rhunter

You call that low?

ok mr big turbo.

that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy

y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE

amdguy · 04-20-2012, 02:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

ok mr big turbo.

that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy

y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE

i wouldnt think to let my timing get near that high... im low 20's on E-85.... one take of bad gas, and its done.

what is the MBT on a stockish motor?

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by amdguy

i wouldnt think to let my timing get near that high... im low 20's on E-85.... one take of bad gas, and its done.

what is the MBT on a stockish motor?

on big turbo of coarse not, i wouldnt either.. but for mopar turbos on race gas or e-85 it the turbos sweet spot....

im not sure whats the MBT on stock motor, maybe duster can chime in, he does my tuning...

amdguy · 04-20-2012, 02:57 PM

what spark plugs do you run? stock reach or the short reach? back when i was on the 50trim, 20psi, (around 400whp) i couldnt get much over 26-27 deg advance on i on E-85. started to knock its face off.

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 03:30 PM

im on ngk 4306 umm gap at .035 i believe

did you see my graph when the pcm pulled 7-10 degrees of timing bc my stupid self let the car get over 215 down the track...

93stang434 · 04-20-2012, 04:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

ok mr big turbo.

that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy

y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE

That timing isn't that low,the tune that i ran 122 with i was running 34* with 12.5-12.7 afr's.

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 93stang434

That timing isn't that low,the tune that i ran 122 with i was running 34* with 12.5-12.7 afr's.

I didnt mean extremely low.

BOOSTMONSTR · 04-20-2012, 05:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

ok mr big turbo.

that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy

y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE

Which one are you referring to?

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 05:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BOOSTMONSTR

Which one are you referring to?

Ralph and nitrous!!!

mole' · 04-20-2012, 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by boostmonstr

which one are you referring to?

nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

how big of a shot

**underSRTarmor** · 04-20-2012, 06:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

how big of a shot

75 single jet!

One day.

NO MY CAR DON'T HAVE NITROUS

FOR ALL YOU WHO HATE ON THE BWS!!!!!!

BOOSTMONSTR · 04-20-2012, 07:17 PM

Only people from Jerry Springer area hate on BWS.

Simon.Starkie · 04-20-2012, 07:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

on big turbo of coarse not, i wouldnt either.. but for mopar turbos on race gas or e-85 it the turbos sweet spot....

im not sure whats the MBT on stock motor, maybe duster can chime in, he does my tuning...

yes...S3R is also sweet on 91 California pump once the S3R PCM gets thoroughly schooled on that particular setup...KR is about -1 on my car as long as I run Union 76 Premium (not Chevron 91 - it's -5 or so, go figure)...HP is Okaaaayyy but TQ is still awesome...and it all spools up so darn fast...funny thing is timing is way over 34*F on my car

so you'd think HP would be better (305 on 91, more on HOM with C16+100 cocktail)...so I'm not sure if you really, really, really need all that E85 and Email tune stuff...but it's cool irregardless (not a word)...

04-20-2012, 11:06 AM	#61 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,846	that sucks __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

04-20-2012, 12:46 PM	#62 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor Hell ya my car is alive. I was running super rich since I did the fpr. Finally had some time to do some logs and send it to duster. I went from a/f in the sub 10 leaning up to 10.7. To. 12.5 riching up to 11.9. I did spin just a hair. And I'm hitting 24 for just moment (boost box Set for 23) and im hold 20 at 6k. Pull a lot better. Timing still low 29-32. Can't wait to get back to the track! You call that low? __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

04-20-2012, 01:22 PM	#63 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	Quote: Originally Posted by Rhunter You call that low? ok mr big turbo. that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 02:12 PM	#64 (permalink)
amdguy SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 30696 Location: minnesota Posts: 2,071	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor ok mr big turbo. that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE i wouldnt think to let my timing get near that high... im low 20's on E-85.... one take of bad gas, and its done. what is the MBT on a stockish motor? __________________ AEM EMS, 2150cc injectors, PTE 6262, howards rods,strapkit, Eliminator Fuel pump, RealTune 5speed, BC stage 4 cams, Ported head, JMFAB intake manifold, Fuel surge tank, walbro 255, 5 bar MAP sensor, Weld wheels, HOOSIER QTP, Weisco Pistons, ARP head studs, Gates timing belt...,...,...

04-20-2012, 02:44 PM	#65 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	Quote: Originally Posted by amdguy i wouldnt think to let my timing get near that high... im low 20's on E-85.... one take of bad gas, and its done. what is the MBT on a stockish motor? on big turbo of coarse not, i wouldnt either.. but for mopar turbos on race gas or e-85 it the turbos sweet spot.... im not sure whats the MBT on stock motor, maybe duster can chime in, he does my tuning... __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 02:57 PM	#66 (permalink)
amdguy SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 30696 Location: minnesota Posts: 2,071	what spark plugs do you run? stock reach or the short reach? back when i was on the 50trim, 20psi, (around 400whp) i couldnt get much over 26-27 deg advance on i on E-85. started to knock its face off. __________________ AEM EMS, 2150cc injectors, PTE 6262, howards rods,strapkit, Eliminator Fuel pump, RealTune 5speed, BC stage 4 cams, Ported head, JMFAB intake manifold, Fuel surge tank, walbro 255, 5 bar MAP sensor, Weld wheels, HOOSIER QTP, Weisco Pistons, ARP head studs, Gates timing belt...,...,...

04-20-2012, 03:30 PM	#67 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	im on ngk 4306 umm gap at .035 i believe did you see my graph when the pcm pulled 7-10 degrees of timing bc my stupid self let the car get over 215 down the track... __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 04:10 PM	#68 (permalink)
93stang434 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Member Number: 49690 Location: Ft. Wayne,IN Posts: 2,242	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor ok mr big turbo. that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE That timing isn't that low,the tune that i ran 122 with i was running 34* with 12.5-12.7 afr's. __________________ Built short block,cncport.com head,BW s256 and and some other stuff=Aiming for the 10's on E85 BC co's,Hotchkiss sways,Prothane bushings,Pwerks strut bars,Mopar tension struts

04-20-2012, 04:21 PM	#69 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	Quote: Originally Posted by 93stang434 That timing isn't that low,the tune that i ran 122 with i was running 34* with 12.5-12.7 afr's. I didnt mean extremely low. __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 05:20 PM	#70 (permalink)
BOOSTMONSTR SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80184 Location: OC Posts: 946	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor ok mr big turbo. that timing is low (on e85)for stock/bws and s3 turbos... boy oh boy y dont you take off your kit(you know what one) and sell it to MEEEE Which one are you referring to? __________________ Garrett t3/t4 60-1 with anti-surge full E85 255 w/ bnf feeding surge w/ Bosch 044 1200cc seimens / aero fpr / fuel cooler Cti charge pipe/ hotside/ cx bfmic/ Ed cold pipe w/ greddy type s/ 55mm tb 4" intake/ stock longblock -bs chain Bc br 6k/6k, prothane master kit Progress front and rear sways/ 18x8.5 Rays gramlights on fed 595ss.

04-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#71 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	Quote: Originally Posted by BOOSTMONSTR Which one are you referring to? Ralph and nitrous!!! __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 06:04 PM	#72 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,846	Quote: Originally Posted by boostmonstr which one are you referring to? nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 how big of a shot __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

04-20-2012, 06:16 PM	#73 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,724	Quote: Originally Posted by mole' nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 how big of a shot 75 single jet! One day. NO MY CAR DON'T HAVE NITROUS FOR ALL YOU WHO HATE ON THE BWS!!!!!! __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

04-20-2012, 07:17 PM	#74 (permalink)
BOOSTMONSTR SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80184 Location: OC Posts: 946	Only people from Jerry Springer area hate on BWS. __________________ Garrett t3/t4 60-1 with anti-surge full E85 255 w/ bnf feeding surge w/ Bosch 044 1200cc seimens / aero fpr / fuel cooler Cti charge pipe/ hotside/ cx bfmic/ Ed cold pipe w/ greddy type s/ 55mm tb 4" intake/ stock longblock -bs chain Bc br 6k/6k, prothane master kit Progress front and rear sways/ 18x8.5 Rays gramlights on fed 595ss.

04-20-2012, 07:31 PM	#75 (permalink)
Simon.Starkie SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1564 Location: . Posts: 2,797	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor on big turbo of coarse not, i wouldnt either.. but for mopar turbos on race gas or e-85 it the turbos sweet spot.... im not sure whats the MBT on stock motor, maybe duster can chime in, he does my tuning... yes...S3R is also sweet on 91 California pump once the S3R PCM gets thoroughly schooled on that particular setup...KR is about -1 on my car as long as I run Union 76 Premium (not Chevron 91 - it's -5 or so, go figure)...HP is Okaaaayyy but TQ is still awesome...and it all spools up so darn fast...funny thing is timing is way over 34*F on my car so you'd think HP would be better (305 on 91, more on HOM with C16+100 cocktail)...so I'm not sure if you really, really, really need all that E85 and Email tune stuff...but it's cool irregardless (not a word)... __________________ It's all about the dogs!

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