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Old 01-25-2006, 02:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Talk about a healthy thread.......As a Cayenne Turbo owner i am very excited to see this new Jeep come out.....YES EXCITED..... Instead of nit picking which SUV is "better" why not be happy that FINALLY we are getting more and more high performance SUV's.....Personally i love Jeep and Porsche....my first car was a 99 Grand Cherokee which i would still have today if some idiot didnt smash into me...... When it comes to Speed....The GC SRT8 will have a little more to 60 than a stock Cayenne Turbo (Turbo S is equal to or a tiny fraction faster) however when it comes to 60+mph it looks as if the Cayenne's will really pull away thanks to the help of the turbo's especially at 100mph+. As for pricing..... Jeep did an amazing job....you CANT beat 40K......especially with the new Turbo S reaching close to 120K ...... Earlier in this thread i saw someone mention mods for the cayenne being unavailable and pricey, which thankfully is only half true, While most of the performance mods are pricey they are extremely easy to get.....there are already 4 different tuning companies which offer turbo upgrades boosting the Cayenne Turbo to over well over 600hp....Gemballa has a 750hp CTT. Also keep in mind the Cayenne Turbo still holds the world record for fastest SUV @ 192 MPH. When it comes to amenities there is no competition....you can have anything and everything in the cayenne while the jeep only offers an unimaginitive typical GC interior (Which has greatly improved and is great for what it is) When it comes to off road the cayenne again has the upper hand with locking front and rear differentials and adjustable air suspension for extra ground clearance! but in the end it all comes down to personal opinion......if i had it my way i would take both!!!

Also....you guys have a strong misunderstanding of who drives these Cayenne's .....granted their are many older 40-50 yr olds who own them and drive like wussies but i know at least 20 people personally under the age of 25 who dont fit your cayenne owner stereotypes....including me a 22 year old college student.....and as for reliability and problems...i have had 2 turbo's and neither have ever seen the shop for mechanical/electrical problems.....Does anyone have any skidpad figures on the SRT8???

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Quote: Originally Posted by CayenneTurbo550
Talk about a healthy thread.......As a Cayenne Turbo owner i am very excited to see this new Jeep come out.....YES EXCITED..... Instead of nit picking which SUV is "better" why not be happy that FINALLY we are getting more and more high performance SUV's.....Personally i love Jeep and Porsche....my first car was a 99 Grand Cherokee which i would still have today if some idiot didnt smash into me...... When it comes to Speed....The GC SRT8 will have a little more to 60 than a stock Cayenne Turbo (Turbo S is equal to or a tiny fraction faster) however when it comes to 60+mph it looks as if the Cayenne's will really pull away thanks to the help of the turbo's especially at 100mph+. As for pricing..... Jeep did an amazing job....you CANT beat 40K......especially with the new Turbo S reaching close to 120K ...... Earlier in this thread i saw someone mention mods for the cayenne being unavailable and pricey, which thankfully is only half true, While most of the performance mods are pricey they are extremely easy to get.....there are already 4 different tuning companies which offer turbo upgrades boosting the Cayenne Turbo to over well over 600hp....Gemballa has a 750hp CTT. Also keep in mind the Cayenne Turbo still holds the world record for fastest SUV @ 192 MPH. When it comes to amenities there is no competition....you can have anything and everything in the cayenne while the jeep only offers an unimaginitive typical GC interior (Which has greatly improved and is great for what it is) When it comes to off road the cayenne again has the upper hand with locking front and rear differentials and adjustable air suspension for extra ground clearance! but in the end it all comes down to personal opinion......if i had it my way i would take both!!!

Also....you guys have a strong misunderstanding of who drives these Cayenne's .....granted their are many older 40-50 yr olds who own them and drive like wussies but i know at least 20 people personally under the age of 25 who dont fit your cayenne owner stereotypes....including me a 22 year old college student.....and as for reliability and problems...i have had 2 turbo's and neither have ever seen the shop for mechanical/electrical problems.....Does anyone have any skidpad figures on the SRT8???

According to available test data the GC SRT-8 will win ; 0-60, 0-100 & in the 1/4 mile over the Cay TT, the GC is electronically limited to 155 on the top end however. The GC SRT-8 also pulls .90 on the skidpad, again superior to the Cay TT's numbers & matches it almost exactly in braking specs. The Cay TT will be superior off-road, as if anyone goes there with one, and has a very nice interior package. And regardless of your situation, very few college students have $100K of disposable income to lay out for the Cay TT.
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Quote: Originally Posted by CayenneTurbo550
When it comes to Speed.... it looks as if the Cayenne's will really pull away thanks to the help of the turbo's especially at 100mph+. Earlier in this thread i saw someone mention mods for the cayenne being unavailable and pricey, which thankfully is only half true, While most of the performance mods are pricey they are extremely easy to get.....there are already 4 different tuning companies which offer turbo upgrades boosting the Cayenne Turbo to over well over 600hp....Gemballa has a 750hp CTT.

How much of an advantage is "pulling away once your over 100mph" really, & how far behind will the Cay TT be at that point? And I disagree with your outlook on mods for the Cay TT being "extremely easy to get". You realize the engine will have to be taken out & sent to Gemballa's plant in Germany for the 750 HP upgrade, & the trannie will really need to be upgraded there as well. This falls outside the realm of "extremely easy" at least in my opinion, LOL. The Cay TT is a wonderful machine & as a 2 Porsche owner myself I was glad to see it built. The $'s Porsche has scooped up from increased sales will fund R&D for the next generation of Boxster's, 911, Carrera GT's & Cay's to come & that's a good thing.

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Can you say B.H. 90210? Those are the only kids driving a Cay TT - an offspring extension of the same said "older guys". Either that or a young successful entertainer/athlete.

Anyhow I've always loved Porsche, but the front of the Cay needs to be much more agressive looking. It's definitely the hottest SUV on the market, but I personally don't respect the styling it got - big room for improvment.
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Quote: Originally Posted by CayenneTurbo550
Talk about a healthy thread.......As a Cayenne Turbo owner i am very excited to see this new Jeep come out.....YES EXCITED..... Instead of nit picking which SUV is "better" why not be happy that FINALLY we are getting more and more high performance SUV's.....Personally i love Jeep and Porsche....my first car was a 99 Grand Cherokee which i would still have today if some idiot didnt smash into me...... When it comes to Speed....The GC SRT8 will have a little more to 60 than a stock Cayenne Turbo (Turbo S is equal to or a tiny fraction faster) however when it comes to 60+mph it looks as if the Cayenne's will really pull away thanks to the help of the turbo's especially at 100mph+. As for pricing..... Jeep did an amazing job....you CANT beat 40K......especially with the new Turbo S reaching close to 120K ...... Earlier in this thread i saw someone mention mods for the cayenne being unavailable and pricey, which thankfully is only half true, While most of the performance mods are pricey they are extremely easy to get.....there are already 4 different tuning companies which offer turbo upgrades boosting the Cayenne Turbo to over well over 600hp....Gemballa has a 750hp CTT. Also keep in mind the Cayenne Turbo still holds the world record for fastest SUV @ 192 MPH. When it comes to amenities there is no competition....you can have anything and everything in the cayenne while the jeep only offers an unimaginitive typical GC interior (Which has greatly improved and is great for what it is) When it comes to off road the cayenne again has the upper hand with locking front and rear differentials and adjustable air suspension for extra ground clearance! but in the end it all comes down to personal opinion......if i had it my way i would take both!!!

Also....you guys have a strong misunderstanding of who drives these Cayenne's .....granted their are many older 40-50 yr olds who own them and drive like wussies but i know at least 20 people personally under the age of 25 who dont fit your cayenne owner stereotypes....including me a 22 year old college student.....and as for reliability and problems...i have had 2 turbo's and neither have ever seen the shop for mechanical/electrical problems.....Does anyone have any skidpad figures on the SRT8???

The srt8 pulls .92 on the skidpad.
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Quote: Originally Posted by adrenalineaiax
honestly i wouldnt buy any suvs i would get a lambo probably ferraris too but i would still have fast cheaper lil bastards like the supra, srt4, evo, sti etc. i honestly think i would still itd be cool to have a 800 hp evo if i were rich besides i would have the moeny to easily afford it so why not do it and i wouldnt go blowing money on the 'better' 'fast' suv because it was more and i could afford id get the srt8 cause to most people it is still impressive cause not everyone can afford a 40g car and id but a blower on it and some other shit have a mean fucking suv that no other suv could touch

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Porsche > Jeep

plain and simple. Wait for the head to head tests, they will settle it and the TT will come out on top.
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I don't care what you guys say, but if you had a ton of cash, the decision would be easy. You would get the Porsche. Its still a Porsche and a status symbol!

People who buy that Cayenne are probably millionaires, and if you can afford it, are you gonna say, "well maybe I will just get the Jeep because its a better deal!"...HELL NO, you are gonna say "I am getting this Porsche so I can show off how much $ I have, and its fast as hell!"

I drove my boss's brothers Cayenne Turbo S. (Yes, $$$) It was quick. But I drive an R/T everyday. I didn't launch it or anything (still had temp tags) but from a roll, holy crap is that thing fast! For it's size and weight, the handling isn't bad. I took the turns on the parkway behind my work at about the same speeds or a little higher than in my Stage II CO'd R/T and I was impressed. I want to test drive an SRT-8 just to see...
He actually had us debadge the whole thing ... including calipers. (because he was getting shit from people) So now it looks even more like a Touareg!!!

If it were me, I'd pick the Jeep. It looks more tough and well, it's not a Porsche SUV. That just doesn't sound right, sorry. I give em props for venturing into that territory, though.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
It's just ungainly looking to me, as was my X5. The GC SRT-8 just looks right to me.

I still like the X5's. Styling wise: X5 > GC > TT S... IMHO
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Quote: Originally Posted by kingkrs
Time to dust off the English books and review the section on grammar.

im not here to win a grammar contest im just here to type see ashdahdhashdhas if u had nothing to contribute to the topic then read my lips mind ur fucking business and get some mods on ur car im here cause i have a modded srt-4 and i clicked on this topic to comment on the srt-8 and related material to the thread not make stupid ass comments like urself
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Quote: Originally Posted by moltenice
Porsche > Jeep

plain and simple. Wait for the head to head tests, they will settle it and the TT will come out on top.

So far their have been 3 sources I'm aware of that have tested the Cay TT previously & the GCSRT-8 recently. All three have the GC SRT-8 about .5 seconds quicker to 60, .3-.5 quicker to 100 & .3 to .5 quicker in the 1/4. With that said I'm interested in seeing the X5 4.8IS, Cay TT, GC SRT-8, and any other SUV's tested head to head as well. I'd also love to see a test where they run all the SRT vehicles head to head, that would be cool.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
How much of an advantage is "pulling away once your over 100mph" really, & haow far behind will the Cay TT be at that point? And I disagree with your outlook on mods for the Cay TT being "extremely easy to get". You realize the engine will have to be taken out & sent to Gemballa's plant in Germany for the 750 HP upgrade, & the trannie will really need to be upgraded there as well. This falls outside the realm of "extremely easy" at least in my opinion, LOL. The Cay TT is a wonderful machine & as a 2 Porsche owner myself I was glad to see it built. The $'s Porsche has scooped up from increased sales will fund R&D for the next generation of Boxster's, 911, Carrera GT's & Cay's to come & that's a good thing.

Gemballa is now actually able to do the 750hp upgrade right at their shop in California....i spoke with Heinz about 2 weeks ago and your right about removing the engine from the bay and also the transmission upgrades but it can be done in the states saving time and money.....Also Ruf offers the turbo upgrade in the states along with a few others.... Im not going to argue semantics with you guys.....We all can agree that BOTH of these SUV's are going to be amazing in their own respects.....actually my little brother who drives a 05 GC 5.7L wants to trade up for the SRT8....which he could definatly pull off...his jeep only has 8K and its in great shape.....Im also not going to argue the magazines.....However did they take any runs from a roll 20-60 30 80 ???...if they say the SRT8 edges out the CTT im going to believe it.....however i plan on test driving one this week in Hartford CT with the CTT side by side (buddy drives the srt) with video footage....and you never know whats gonna happen in the street.....I also dont have a stock CTT....I've added the Fabspeed Cat-back Exhaust with the Fabspeed 2ndry Cat Bypass Pipes, Hyperboost HXC Diverter valves andBMC F1 Filters....with either the GIAC/FVD ECU Upgrade coming later this month.....Not from Cali either....East Coast Cayenne Owners ....Also if there are any potential SRT8 Connecticut owners ...id be more than happy to meet up and take runs in anytime...(PA also)


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To Cayenne Turbo 550: When I bought my Carrera there was a Gemballa car on the sales floor I considered but it was black & I'm just too old to wash my cars every 15 minutes to keep it clean, LOL. Out of curiosity do you have any clue what a Gemballa 750 engine/trannie upgrade would cost on the Cay?
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Fast forward to about 4 minutes and 50 seconds.

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