I would love to see what these jeeps are putting down to the ground.
And on another note...... who plans to mod thier srt-8 jeep. I seen a really nice catback made by Zoomers. On the Srt-8 300C it made 22hp and 24ft.lb to the wheels. And it sounded mean and looked first rate. $1200 if I remember right.
Also there will be a superchip out for the 6.1. And I would love to see the guy that slaps a supercharger on,,,,,,,,,
I still have yet to see one in person, I cant wait.
I would love to see what these jeeps are putting down to the ground.
And on another note...... who plans to mod thier srt-8 jeep. I seen a really nice catback made by Zoomers. On the Srt-8 300C it made 22hp and 24ft.lb to the wheels. And it sounded mean and looked first rate. $1200 if I remember right.
Also there will be a superchip out for the 6.1. And I would love to see the guy that slaps a supercharger on,,,,,,,,,
I still have yet to see one in person, I cant wait.
Have fun Guys!!!!!!
I am thinking of doing some mods, but not just yet. When I do, I'll dyno before and after, and post the #'s
I don't know if anyone has strapped their GC SRT-8 to a Dyno & spun the drum yet, but the numbers are definitely in, LOL. 4700+ lbs., 0-60 in 4.5, 1/4 in 13.2 @ 104. Yeah the numbers are in...
I don't know if anyone has strapped their GC SRT-8 to a Dyno & spun the drum yet, but the numbers are definitely in, LOL. 4700+ lbs., 0-60 in 4.5, 1/4 in 13.2 @ 104. Yeah the numbers are in...
Quick question - Can you get nos for the 6.1 Hemi? If I got nos how much HP would it really add to the 420 and what kind of numbers might I see? Hopefully 12s in quarter.
You can add nitrous to anything you want and it all depends on how big of a shot you run as to the gains you will see
...and how quickly you'll blow the motor!
I remember reading an article published by some magazine, they rented a Dodge Neon and installed a 100 shot or something like that, took it to a dragstrip and by the end of the day the motor was totally shot, blowing smoke, making no compression, etc, and they managed to drive it back to the rental shop and they returned it without a problem, supposedly.
I want it to be safe for my engine so what would be a good number for a 6.1L? I was thinking maybe just an 80shot that would put me at about 500hp. My local tuner shop wants to put a Zex kit in it, would that be any good?
I want it to be safe for my engine so what would be a good number for a 6.1L? I was thinking maybe just an 80shot that would put me at about 500hp. My local tuner shop wants to put a Zex kit in it, would that be any good?
Zex has been in the NOS business for a while & they use quality components. the key to safe use of NOS is proper set up. My experience with NOS has been on GM LS1 & LS2 equipped vehicles with MAF's & I'm not as familiar with DC's air metering parameters. Using a "Wet Kit" that meters a precisely calculated shot of fuel metered exactly to the NOS jet used is the safest way to prevent a deadly lean condition. While I've used Dry systems in the past with good results, I prefer the added safety of a wet kit overall. I would also suggest running a "Window Switch" along with your throttle position sensor, "TPS". The TPS will only power the nitrous solenoid at wide open throttle position and the window switch will limit the rpm @ which the nitrous would be activated. With an engine that redlines @ 6000 rpm for instance you don't want nitrous flowing below about 3000 & want it to cut it off @ 5900 or so. This cuts the nitrous before the computer's fuel cutoff at redline preventing a possible lean condition if the nitrous continued, thereby KABOOM. Generally speaking, if properly set up any kit under 100 is fairly safe & if used sparingly would have little detrimental affect on your vehicle. If you use even a 75-80 shot constantly you might see drivetrain issues pop up. Using anything in the 150 range & up is risky on a stock drivetrain, it requires excellent components, meticulous maintenance & I'd recommend prayer on a regular basis, LOL. Good luck.
Zex has been in the NOS business for a while & they use quality components.
Nitros Oxide Systems has been its own company for many years; it has been for long before ZEX or that stupid movie came out.
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the key to safe use of NOS is proper set up.
You build an engine for N2O, not the other way around.
Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
My experience with NOS has been on GM LS1 & LS2 equipped vehicles with MAF's & I'm not as familiar with DC's air metering parameters.
DC uses system "parameters" for its vehicles; there are maybe 7 people in the World that can fool a NGC and all of them work for DC or Mopar.
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Using a "Wet Kit" that meters a precisely calculated shot of fuel metered exactly to the NOS jet used is the safest way to prevent a deadly lean condition.
I can't "precisely calculate" the ever changing pressures, temps, enivronmental reactions to fuel to the same reactions to N2O then processed thru the said system to the engine regulated system than the Guys at NOS or Zex can. It's all a calculated guess.
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While I've used Dry systems in the past with good results, I prefer the added safety of a wet kit overall.
Yes, wet systems are safer than dry; if used per direction of manufactorer.
Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
I would also suggest running a "Window Switch" along with your throttle position sensor, "TPS".
Yes, window switches can only help in a N2O system
Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
The TPS will only power the nitrous solenoid at wide open throttle position and the window switch will limit the rpm @ which the nitrous would be activated.
(On powered syetems) A TPS does not power the solenoid, it sends a (on average) ~5 Volt signal to the switch, this in turn closes the switch and allows power to flow to the solenoid. (On other systems) the full deflecton of the throttle assebly manually closes a "window" switch that activates the N2O system.
Quote: Originally Posted by ARh1956
With an engine that redlines @ 6000 rpm for instance you don't want nitrous flowing below about 3000 & want it to cut it off @ 5900 or so. This cuts the nitrous before the computer's fuel cutoff at redline preventing a possible lean condition if the nitrous continued, thereby KABOOM. Generally speaking, if properly set up any kit under 100 is fairly safe & if used sparingly would have little detrimental affect on your vehicle. If you use even a 75-80 shot constantly you might see drivetrain issues pop up. Using anything in the 150 range & up is risky on a stock drivetrain, it requires excellent components, meticulous maintenance & I'd recommend prayer on a regular basis, LOL. Good luck.
I should be picking mine up on tuesday once i put a litttle mileage on it I will get it Dyno'd and post my numbers. it will be done on a Dyno Dynamics machine.
I see that nos is a very tricky thing to setup right and actually understand completely. So in the easiest way explain what a wet zex kit that runs its shot through the air intake would do for a 6.1 hemi in the Jeep. Would it really boost the performance enough to see a second atleast faster in the quarter? Is it safe to get and use just as long as its not use very often then? I'm just tryin to be safe and not blow up my new Jeep, sorry for the same dumb questions over and over. Thanks!
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Any Dyno Numbers on the Jeep yet?
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