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we just tuned one here in colorado that made 429hp sae corrected on a s3 with 44lb wheel and external gate. boost was rock solid at 22psi no huge spike held constant
Jesus Christ was that on hom? Either way thats some good power out of a 44lb wheel.
So how much is the power package with the 47 lb wheel, DCR 3" inlet and anti-surge porting, and race mainfold going to run? Also do you know, is it the DCR porting on this guys turbo?
How much of a difference does the street/strip port make compared to the standard port? Minor difference in hp or big difference? Basically I have a stage 3 manifold that needs some attention, i was looking into a simple port n polish an maybe a ceramic coat. It will be paired with a big wheel Stage 3.
I guess ill be the first to ask this....what is the difference in Ext gate and Internal....I know the physical differences (obviously theirs a bee hive on your manifold) And I know the External gate will hold more boost to redline but HOW much??? Cause an extra 2lbs at redline is a big difference.
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I guess ill be the first to ask this....what is the difference in Ext gate and Internal....I know the physical differences (obviously theirs a bee hive on your manifold) And I know the External gate will hold more boost to redline but HOW much??? Cause an extra 2lbs at redline is a big difference.
There are only the two differences that you mentioned really. The race manifold helps with the surging as well
2psi to redline is for sure possible. It really depends on what spring you use in the gate.
The power gains will be different on each car. Its pretty evident as to the difference in air flow [just by looking at pics]
Keep in mind the port shaped was maximised on the race manifold. We didnt just hog it out and copy someone. Its a well thought out and tested shape.
The car I bought already had a FnF stage 3 port work....How much or how well was it done, I cant answer that(other than comparing EGT's). We all know bob is one of the best porters on the forums except he kind got held up by other stuff lately....Either way, back on topic, im really looking for 450 hsp....on HOM or just pump? I dont really car...I dont wanna build the engine just yet and I have no head work done. But my entire fuel system has been assembled and ready to go along with a AFC....So basicly just trying to figure out who to go with, You, John at PTP with his 50lber, or Bob at FnF....
Like I stated in the other thread(under performance mods) I need hard facts, videos and dyno sheets before i dump literally 1500 in add ons to my stage 3....got any dyno sheets/videos/or track slips of your balls to the wall Stage 3 mod????
The car I bought already had a FnF stage 3 port work....How much or how well was it done, I cant answer that(other than comparing EGT's). We all know bob is one of the best porters on the forums except he kind got held up by other stuff lately....Either way, back on topic, im really looking for 450 hsp....on HOM or just pump? I dont really car...I dont wanna build the engine just yet and I have no head work done. But my entire fuel system has been assembled and ready to go along with a AFC....So basicly just trying to figure out who to go with, You, John at PTP with his 50lber, or Bob at FnF....
Like I stated in the other thread(under performance mods) I need hard facts, videos and dyno sheets before i dump literally 1500 in add ons to my stage 3....got any dyno sheets/videos/or track slips of your balls to the wall Stage 3 mod????
Bob is good at what he does. His port shape is not ideal with what we do to the manifold though.
Our setup on Brads car went 11.3@127. Stock head, cams, intake manifold, bottom end, catback, axels, 24inch slicks, and 110 race gas.
450 on pump just isnt going to happen without some way to control timing. In fact I doubt it would be possible at all unless you consider 110 out of the pump -pump gas.
Wes made 425whp on pump gas with our setup, but only used it for a week or so when he got a smoking deal on the tubular setup.
Honestly, I dont really feel the need to pump this stuff like the other guys do. Everyone knows what we are about here and our stuff sells itself.
We offer the 44lb wheel [I feel is the best] and the 47lb wheel. I can even get a 49lb wheel but feel that is not the way to go.
IMO with what you want, youd be better off with a turbo upgrade over stage 3 upgrade.
turbo upgrade is out of the question. I had a stock/SST'd SRT-4 before and then sold it. Waited a month and bought a Stage 3 SRT-4....I want 2 things, 1) Quick spool and near stock driveability....2) I like the better timing control over stage 0 as well as the little bit extra RPM range....
I plan on running Meth just about all the time with a CM progressive controller. I have to ask though, why arent you a believer of the 47 and 49lb wheels? Bearing or shaft issues? Heats up the air to much (as like the SST and E2)?
As juvinile as it sounds I only bought this car to be the under dog, i can very much afford a C5 or a 03 cobra. But everyone has one of those running 12.2's and trapping 115....I want a fucking neon that looks near stock (dont really wanna get a Ext gate under my hood, but if the power at redline is that much better then i will have to go in that direction)...the goal would be 450 with a nasty powerband....usually that is good to walk all over a 03 from a roll....And 50 trim is great but I gotta play the spool card on this one, I bought Stage 3 for the near stock spool (its a little later but no biggie) ...
And honestly the 50 trims usually max out arround 475 correct(420-500)? If the 50lb wheel from PTP hits 452 un tuned then why not just stay with a big wheel Stage 3? Better spool, Better powerband, and better tuneability....sorry for the long post.
Aaron, this thread is 2 years old & you have much much more experience & real world numbers on the Stage 3's. Obviously 450whp & low 11's/ high 10's have been a proven reality.
Anything change from the initial post, change in design, the price etc...? Can you still get 44lbs wheels?
Also what's the turn around look like on the compressor upgrade? What about the turnine housing/ manifolds?
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