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Old 10-27-2009, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How the heck does this happen, All of a sudden my car is falling apart at 76k miles. Heres the run down

Problem 1: I get a CEL for codes P0335 and P0340 which I look up and seem to be the Crank Pos Sensor and Cam Pos Sensor. Would probably explain why my car sometimes and a lot more frequently wont crank or anything, right? Would replacing those 2 fix it?

Problem 2: I have what seems as worn brakes but not sure, what happens is when I'm cruisin I here like this rhythmic rub or grind and then sometimes my brake pedal is normal and other times it sinks in all the way, I'm also speculating that it might be my hub and bearing? WTF? Seriously!

Problem 3: What seems to be like bushings or something are making like a rubbing noise from I'm assuming the right wheel well only seems to do it when I'm turning in either direction, this one totally boggles me?

Problem 4: Inspection is due in Nov. and my car doesn't look like it would pass at all.

Oh..my, I'm so upset I don't even know where to start what are your guys suggestions or experiances, any imput would be appreciated?

p.s. Mods if wrong section feel free to move, but I mainly felt like I needed to vent.
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How the heck does this happen, All of a sudden my car is falling apart at 76k miles. Heres the run down

Problem 1: I get a CEL for codes P0335 and P0340 which I look up and seem to be the Crank Pos Sensor and Cam Pos Sensor. Would probably explain why my car sometimes and a lot more frequently wont crank or anything, right? Would replacing those 2 fix it?

if your car doesn't crank at all, you have more problems than the cam and crank sensors. if it cranks, but doesn't start, the cam/crank sensor could be at fault.

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Problem 2: I have what seems as worn brakes but not sure, what happens is when I'm cruisin I here like this rhythmic rub or grind and then sometimes my brake pedal is normal and other times it sinks in all the way, I'm also speculating that it might be my hub and bearing? WTF? Seriously!

again, this could be more than just brakes. time to take it in and have it looked at. grinding and rubbing aren't usually associated with spongy pedal, so it is most likely 2 different things.

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Problem 3: What seems to be like bushings or something are making like a rubbing noise from I'm assuming the right wheel well only seems to do it when I'm turning in either direction, this one totally boggles me?

wheel bearing is going.

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Problem 4: Inspection is due in Nov. and my car doesn't look like it would pass at all.

Everything you have mentioned here will only cost you about $500 to fix, including new brake pads, fluid, wheel bearing, cam sensor, cam reference magnet, and crank sensor-->assuming you do it all yourself. You can double that if you have a shop do it all, and triple it if you have Dodge do it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How the heck does this happen, All of a sudden my car is falling apart at 76k miles. Heres the run down

Problem 1: I get a CEL for codes P0335 and P0340 which I look up and seem to be the Crank Pos Sensor and Cam Pos Sensor. Would probably explain why my car sometimes and a lot more frequently wont crank or anything, right? Would replacing those 2 fix it?

Problem 2: I have what seems as worn brakes but not sure, what happens is when I'm cruisin I here like this rhythmic rub or grind and then sometimes my brake pedal is normal and other times it sinks in all the way, I'm also speculating that it might be my hub and bearing? WTF? Seriously!

Problem 3: What seems to be like bushings or something are making like a rubbing noise from I'm assuming the right wheel well only seems to do it when I'm turning in either direction, this one totally boggles me?

Problem 4: Inspection is due in Nov. and my car doesn't look like it would pass at all.

Oh..my, I'm so upset I don't even know where to start what are your guys suggestions or experiances, any imput would be appreciated?

p.s. Mods if wrong section feel free to move, but I mainly felt like I needed to vent.

Lol thats rough but lets look at some of these things.
problem 1: a CEL or MIL which i wish people would use more often if we were to try and be more ASE politically correct has shown that your CKP (crank position sensor) and CMP (Cam position sensor) have an irregularity in the circuit, it may not even be that the sensor is bad, you should never condemn a part just because a MIL has shown a problem on the circuit, always test the connections. Invest in a DMM (Digital MultiMeter) and test the sensor yourself! The information on how to do this is out there and its not very hard with a magnetic pickup sensor to see if the sensor is working or not...
-Lets review what these sensors do, essentially these are they act as your ECU's eyes, they tell the computer what position your cams and crank are in so that the computer can make adjustments to fuel and ign accordingly....so if your ECU has gone blind and does not know when to pulse the fuel injectors or ignition how can you expect the car to run right at all? So i would say its safe to assume these will help your problem a great deal. A MIL comes on to show you that one of your sensors has gone to shit, and to keep yourself from doing anymore damage to the car like driving it around and fouling out your cat, lean burning your valves etc you stop driving it and service it ASAP. It kills me when people drive like 40k on a MIL and then wonder why their car turns to junk...

2. Problem two, the fact that your pedal goes all the way to the floorboard and you havent taken off the wheels to do a thorough brake inspection puzzles me...you can do it yourself with basic handtools. Pedals sinking indicate that the hydraulic pressure in your brake system is failing somewhere in the system, be it from old lines, messed up caliper pistons, master cylinder etc...this is usually a VERY easy problem to fix...brake problems should never last you more than 3 days to fix if you are waiting for parts..its just not that complicated.

3. Problem Three, this ones easy, because you should always be sure to explain if the noise is coming from the front or rear of a vehicle when describing how it "sounds". Sound is the least efficient way to communicate a car problem, you hear something...ok well tell us about it, but give all the details if you want any kind of real answer at all, Front or rear noise? Does the noise dissapear when you turn or get worse? if its a rubbing noise when the car is moving determine where from jack the car up give it the shake test, visual inspection etc turn the wheels when theyre off the air and try to simulate the noise...
also, how loud is the noise, and by that i mean, at what speed is the noise its loudest?

Problem 4 isnt really a problem with your car...I would say this one falls on what you did wrong. Not to bash you or give you a hard time but you must be a do it yourselfer, you did buy a turbo neon and this is how DIY'ers approach their projects, because we hate working for free, so you might as well attack your problems in the most efficient manor possible.
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Damn, dudes. You guys are awesome. And Yes I usually do all the work myself.

Problem 1: It's take a while for the car to even Crank so when it starts to crank it takes a quite a few key turns for it to finally start. Which I think does not happen when the car is warmed up. As I noticed initially. It's started a few months ago and it would do it maybe Once a month if that but it was till recently like 2 weeks ago that it started doing it about every few days.

Problem 2:My mistake I didn't include that I have looked at the brake cylinder(correct?) and it still had fluid up till the Fill line, and since I really can't jack the car up since I don't have any means since I live in the barracks and the AutoCrafts is open only when I'm at work makes it a little difficult to jack it up. But I did try and turn the wheels to see if there was any fluid or what not leaking, Of course does not help much but just in case.

Problem 3: Got ahead of myself thought I wrote in there in front, unfortunately I fly solo most of the time, I really don't have anybody able to give me a hand in troubleshooting things. but like I said when it first started doing this noise it would do it a really low speeds and low sounding, now it's more profound and does it regardless how fast I'm traveling.

And the fact that it's all going to run me 500 bux really is unfortunate because I'm trying to buy my ticket to fly home for Christmas. So that's a whole another story.
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Okay, so update

Problem 1: So I no longer get the codes for the crank pos sensor and cam pos sensor, but I do get the codes for the ASD relay, and O2 sensor 1/1 1/2.

Problem 2: brakes no longer are soft. I guess problem 3 seemed like it had something to do with it.

Problem 3: Seemed to have been the driver side wheel hub to axle nut was loose tighten it up, and seemed to have fixed this problem. But a new problem seems that I think I need a new passenger side axle, I think.

So i'm still having problems. And running outta time
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okay, so this morning I was leaving to work when the car just died. And wouldn't crank.
so I checked the codes and notice I got a new code: P0685 and P0688 which have to do with the ASD relay, which I wonder from what I have been reading has anything to do with the CKP sensor and CMP sensor of which I no longer seem to be getting codes for, so buying those 3 items should fix my problem along with relay, correct? So should I pick them up at like autozone or stealership?

any help would much be appreciated. Thanks guys
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So I replaced the Cam Position sensor and nothing still cranks but does not start. Now, im getting another code P0508 something about the IAC how is that if that never gave me any problems.

I still can't seem to find the ASD sensor, because I don't have a fuse that blows like a lot of people are saying, but I did replase the relay and still nothing. And because of the location I can't move the car to even jack it up to attempt to change out the Crank pos sensor.

So the codes I have now are P0508 and P0038.

I hate being in the barracks it's extremely hard to work on my car

Any additional help would be greatly appreciated, guys
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Okay, So I ended up towing it to a shop and they replaced the crank sensor which they said was all seized up, Which I know so saved me the hassle. But it was jacked up.

But then they said that didn't fix the problem so they check the coil and sure enough replaced that too and fixed it. So it's good to go now,

So what I guess end up working was replacing the crank and cam sensor and the coil pack. As far as the ASD relay code, I was getting that code because the wire I used to hook up my wideband on the fuse box under the dash had a loose wire on it and disconnected my wideband and reconnected the wire by itself so code went away.

I guess I'm going to need to find another place to find power for my wideband.

All in all cost me 340 from the shop to fix.

Which I also end up calling one of those places on the radio that offer extended warrenties and purchased one of those for 100 bux a month hopefully It works to my benefit.
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