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Old 04-23-2004, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Found Potential Factory Wiring Problem!

Hey All,

I'm installing a AFR Gage in my car and doing some wiring thru the firewall and saw the following that will certainly over time be a wiring problem.

The Clutch Lever when fully depressed will mash the Brake Switch wiring harness against the floor board. Mine is crushed, but still functional. There are 2 push pins holding it exactly in place for this to happen! I'm going to try and re-route mine as soon as I can get the plug out of the Brake Switch. I had no luck so far in getting out the plug but will try again later.

Look at yours now to see it for yourself. Mopar and you need to know about this.
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Old 04-23-2004, 12:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm I'm gonna have to take a look at this..

I keep several rolls of friction tape for just such an occasion
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Has anyone else looked at their's to confirm this is a problem?
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Look it's easy.
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Just looked at mine, yup, same thing!
Wonder if this is causing the hard shifts into gear!
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Have you e-mailed Dodge about it??

Got pics of where this is located so others can compare???
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Its not hard to see, go into the car with a flashlight, push the clutch in, its on the firewall right above where the carpet stops. The harness comes down from the brake switch, crosses where the clutch would depress further and goes over. The harness is snapped into the sound deadening. My guess is EVERY 03 is like this, and poss the 04s, its the way the wires were routed and the travel of the clutch.
Go check it out, takes 10 secs....
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Whoa, i will have to check mine too. Thanks for noticing this!
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Yeah, I just checked mine, it's an 04, and yes, I have the same problem. The wires are held in place by those two plastic clips/anchors. I'm going to work on moving these ASAP. I'm suprised DCX located them there. It seems that after enough hard slams on the wires they'll begin to cut. Maybe it'll take a few years, but, nevertheless, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I think everyone should look at theirs and think about moving them.
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Thanks Marion!!
This explains some weird clutch issues I see occasionally
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Hmm I'm gonna have to take a look at this TOO !
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saw that about a month ago when i installed my remote start. i just moved the wire.. zipties are your friend. to remove the brake switch wiring harness you have to remove the brake switch.. it takes a 1/4 turn to the left.. then it comes right out..
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Checked mine out and sure enough if the clutch is depressed all the way to the floor it will definitely mash the harness. I don't think there will be a problem with short term damage. Its not like the pedal has sharp edges or anything but it could definitely be a problem later on.
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Looks like it's happened to more than a few

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True, but abrasion of the pedal hitting the wires could eventually cause the insulation to fail. The pedal is likely at ground potential, and I'm sure one of those wires carries +12V. Spark Spark!
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