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Old 08-30-2007, 03:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ams37r = 609 Hp 517 Tq

...On a stock bottom end, running 26 psi, revving to 7100 RPM. Those are SAE corrected numbers...Didn't think to get the correction factor, but I did ask what the uncorrected HP was, and was told 550. Still very very impressive.

I'm in Salt Lake City, Utah. Elevation is roughly 4500 FT.

Go ahead, call bullshit. But this is the real deal. I will have some pics of the dyno graph, as well as some video footage very soon. Friend of mine is uploading the footage to his computer.

Anyway...It was nuts. Car made 390 HP on 14 psi, so i knew it was on from there.

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Plans for a built motor may be getting pushed forward sooner, now that I'm playing with a ticking time bomb...LOL

Thanks go out to Cortney Green. He is the tuning master that pulled those numbers from my car without blowing it up. If anyone keeps up with SFWD, you'll recognize his name. I believe he is Number 1 in points in both divisions. He drives a mid 9 second civic hatch with a 4294 turbo, and a B18 engine.

Edit: here's a video...gotta love it!
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=17047898
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Those are some serious #'s! Just wait til you build that motor, and crank that boost just a little bit more!
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Quote: Originally Posted by chuck's_srt-4
...On a stock bottom end, running 26 psi, revving to 7100 RPM. Those are SAE corrected numbers...Didn't think to get the correction factor, but I did ask what the uncorrected HP was, and was told 550. Still very very impressive.

I'm in Salt Lake City, Utah. Elevation is roughly 4500 FT.

Go ahead, call bullshit. But this is the real deal. I will have some pics of the dyno graph, as well as some video footage very soon. Friend of mine is uploading the footage to his computer.

Anyway...It was nuts. Car made 390 HP on 14 psi, so i knew it was on from there.

Mod list:
AMS 37R turbo kit
AEM EMS
JMCylinder heads CNC Ported/polished w/oversize valves
Crower(original) S2 Camshafts, set to 0 , 0
Stock bottom end, w/balance shaft delete
LFS 60mm TB/spacer
ED superbeast
MPx 3" TBE
ACT 6-puck

Plans for a built motor may be getting pushed forward sooner, now that I'm playing with a ticking time bomb...LOL

Thanks go out to Cortney Green. He is the tuning master that pulled those numbers from my car without blowing it up. If anyone keeps up with SFWD, you'll recognize his name. I believe he is Number 1 in points in both divisions. He drives a mid 9 second civic hatch with a 4294 turbo, and a B18 engine.


Ok I call BS. That is a bunch of crap!!!!































Nice numbers man . Some day I hope to have cash for those numbers.
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Nice Numbers!

I'm amazed your still on the stock bottom end, build that thing and put 38 psi through it! 800whp?
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DEEEEAMMMMMMM Chuck....

I hate you!

Nice#s

Lets see it in the 10s now ok...
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Bump for video...added in first post, and here for your convenience.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=17047898
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Cool video!
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Not bad mang

Get that thing to the track now!
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awesome numbers!! Im surprised it doesnt have a lil more torque though. Still thats amazing!
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As far as the tq goes, he isnt in the efficiency range for that turbo yet.
Once he throws 30+ psi at it, you'll see the tq.
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Quote: Originally Posted by TurboJay
awesome numbers!! Im surprised it doesnt have a lil more torque though. Still thats amazing!

I could live with 517 wtq Oh my wheel spin
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When do you hit full boost with that beast?
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Roughly 4500 rpm it's fully spooled. It hits peak tq at 5k, though.

Also, regarding the TQ vs the HP, you have to understand that HP is a by-product of TQ. The equation for HP is TQ x RPM / 5252. That means that any HP measurement above 5252 rpm will always be higher than the TQ measurement. So, given that the turbo doesn't hit full spool till 4500 rpm, and peak tq doesn't come on until 5k, and doesn't hardly die off after that, HP will compound and always be higher than TQ. There's no way around it.

The reason that TQ is so overbearing on small turbos is because it peaks much earlier in the rpm band, and dies off much quicker. So HP never gets the chance to compound higher than TQ with as quick as the smaller turbos loose their breath. It is still higher than TQ after 5252 rpm, but by then, the TQ is dropping rapidly, so therefore the HP will only carry to about 5800 rpm or so.

Look at any SRT with a 61 mm turbo (aka GT35R, SC61 etc etc) or larger, and the HP will always outweigh the TQ.
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Quote: Originally Posted by chuck's_srt-4
Roughly 4500 rpm it's fully spooled. It hits peak tq at 5k, though.

Also, regarding the TQ vs the HP, you have to understand that HP is a by-product of TQ. The equation for HP is TQ x RPM / 5252. That means that any HP measurement above 5252 rpm will always be higher than the TQ measurement. So, given that the turbo doesn't hit full spool till 4500 rpm, and peak tq doesn't come on until 5k, and doesn't hardly die off after that, HP will compound and always be higher than TQ. There's no way around it.

The reason that TQ is so overbearing on small turbos is because it peaks much earlier in the rpm band, and dies off much quicker. So HP never gets the chance to compound higher than TQ with as quick as the smaller turbos loose their breath. It is still higher than TQ after 5252 rpm, but by then, the TQ is dropping rapidly, so therefore the HP will only carry to about 5800 rpm or so.

Look at any SRT with a 61 mm turbo (aka GT35R, SC61 etc etc) or larger, and the HP will always outweigh the TQ.


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